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Hello all,

I’ve been lurking here on the dark side for a year or so. :)

I am contemplating ditching the PIC18F252 in my current project in favor 
of a tiny2313.

I’ve become pretty accustomed to my Microchip ICD2. I’ve looked at 
Atmel’s JTAG-ICE, but $299 is more than I really want to pay; plus it 
looks like I may still need a real programmer? I think I have an 
(unused) AVRISP around here somewhere...

Any 3^rd party tools available to support debugWIRE on the 2313?

Regards,
Aaron Garber

At 02:27 PM 6/24/2005, Aaron wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I've been lurking here on the dark side for a year or so. :)
>
>I am contemplating ditching the PIC18F252 in my current project in favor
>of a tiny2313.
>
>I've become pretty accustomed to my Microchip ICD2. I've looked at
>Atmel's JTAG-ICE, but $299 is more than I really want to pay; plus it
>looks like I may still need a real programmer? I think I have an
>(unused) AVRISP around here somewhere...

There are a couple of people making low cost Jtag ices, but I don't 
believe they will help you on the smaller parts.
They also act in the place of an AVRISP.

Hello,

( Wise choice to get on to AVRs ... for sure ... you will like them ... just
ask for stories here about the others and you will get a lot of comment. )

You didn't elaborate much on what you are going to do but... here goes...

There is no debug-wire support on a JTAG-ICE. So you don't want a JTAG-ICE
it doesn't support the 2313. If you are going to do formal debug things, you
need version mkII to get the debug wire support. You might download and
install latest AVR Studio ... then read the tools help section ... it will
fully inform you on what is what from Atmel in tools.

However, if you just want to do some development and programming of the chip
... the $79 STK500 supports ISP type programming and development for the
ATtiny2313 and a whole slue of other AVRs. I use the here as a base for
bread boards and they work great.

As far as 3rd party debug support for the 2313 - I don't know but check out
AVRfreaks.

There are some very wise and bright folks here that are way beyond me so
keep asking and you will get answers here.

Jim



----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Aaron" <aaron.groups@gmail.com>
To: <avr-chat@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 12:27 PM
Subject: [AVR-Chat] 3rd party tools with debugWIRE support?


> Hello all,
>
> I’ve been lurking here on the dark side for a year or so. :)
>
> I am contemplating ditching the PIC18F252 in my current project in favor
> of a tiny2313.
>
> I’ve become pretty accustomed to my Microchip ICD2. I’ve looked at
> Atmel’s JTAG-ICE, but $299 is more than I really want to pay; plus it
> looks like I may still need a real programmer? I think I have an
> (unused) AVRISP around here somewhere...
>
> Any 3^rd party tools available to support debugWIRE on the 2313?
>
> Regards,
> Aaron Garber
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Aaron <aaron.groups@g...> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I've been lurking here on the dark side for a year or so. :)
> 
> I am contemplating ditching the PIC18F252 in my current project in 
favor 
> of a tiny2313.
> 
> I've become pretty accustomed to my Microchip ICD2. I've looked at 
> Atmel's JTAG-ICE, but $299 is more than I really want to pay; plus it 
> looks like I may still need a real programmer? I think I have an 
> (unused) AVRISP around here somewhere...
> 
> Any 3^rd party tools available to support debugWIRE on the 2313?
> 
> Regards,
> Aaron Garber

Hi Aaron,

welcome to the dark side! ;-))

Maybe you can get a deal like me? During the time of the last embedded 
fair at Nuremberg one of my Atmel distributors had a special deal: A 
STK500, a STK501 and a JTAG-ICE all together for 339 Euros. Since I 
already had a STK500 and had no use for the STK501 I sold both via 
ebay. For the resulting ~130 Euros the JTAG-ICe was quite ok.

HTH,
Stefan

Ummmh...

Sorry, I wasn't precise in my previous post: I got an JTAG-ICE MK-II 
the way I described. This can handle JTAG (really :), ISP and DebugWire.

Stefan