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A quickie for those who have it:

A quickie for those who have it:

2006-11-29 by Dave VanHorn

CVAVR: Will I have problems if I want to install it on multiple 
computers?  I'm a one-man-show here, but I run five computers and a 
laptop. Basically the idea is that I can task-swap easier by having 
multiple physical benches, and of course I need to travel once in a 
while.

I have no intent to use more than one "seat" as there will never be 
more than one person using the software, I just don't want to have to 
go through a bunch of hoops to move from computer to computer.

Re: [AVR-Chat] A quickie for those who have it:

2006-11-29 by Richard Reeves

> CVAVR: Will I have problems if I want to install it on multiple 
> computers?  I'm a one-man-show here, but I run five computers and a
> laptop. Basically the idea is that I can task-swap easier by having
> multiple physical benches, and of course I need to travel once in a
> while.
> 
> I have no intent to use more than one "seat" as there will never be
> more than one person using the software, I just don't want to have to
> go through a bunch of hoops to move from computer to computer.
It's a pain to transfer the licence from one machine to the other, as 
the process goes as follows:
You have a PC with CVAVR on
You install it on another PC, which gives you a 16 or 20 character 
serial number
You have to then export the licence from the first PC, supplying the 
serial number given the second PC when installing CVAVR
At that point, the first PC's copy won't run, and the second PC's 
will.
You could get a copy of DeepFreeze and export your licence as many 
times as you like - rebooting your system will reinstate the first 
PC's licence every time :-)
 
At work (an EE department at a university) we decided that as 
CodeVision don't do discounts for multiple copies / educational 
usage, we'd just use GCC. 



Richard
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Re: [AVR-Chat] A quickie for those who have it:

2006-11-29 by John Samperi

At 04:04 AM 30/11/2006, you wrote:

>CVAVR: Will I have problems if I want to install it on multiple
>computers?

Reading the licence agreement may give you a clue, I know, I know
I hate reading too :)

Otherwise you may drop Codevision a line and ask.


Regards

John Samperi

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Re: [AVR-Chat] A quickie for those who have it:

2006-11-30 by Kathy Quinlan

Dave VanHorn wrote:
> CVAVR: Will I have problems if I want to install it on multiple 
> computers?  I'm a one-man-show here, but I run five computers and a 
> laptop. Basically the idea is that I can task-swap easier by having 
> multiple physical benches, and of course I need to travel once in a 
> while.
> 
> I have no intent to use more than one "seat" as there will never be 
> more than one person using the software, I just don't want to have to 
> go through a bunch of hoops to move from computer to computer.

You will need a license per PC or have to export and import the license 
as you move :( I know it sux, but Pavel is only trying to protect the 
code he has written.

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Re: [AVR-Chat] A quickie for those who have it:

2006-11-30 by Don Ingram

Kathy Quinlan wrote:
> Dave VanHorn wrote:
>> CVAVR: Will I have problems if I want to install it on multiple 
>> computers?  I'm a one-man-show here, but I run five computers and a 
>> laptop. Basically the idea is that I can task-swap easier by having 
>> multiple physical benches, and of course I need to travel once in a 
>> while.
>>
>> I have no intent to use more than one "seat" as there will never be 
>> more than one person using the software, I just don't want to have to 
>> go through a bunch of hoops to move from computer to computer.
> 
> You will need a license per PC or have to export and import the license 
> as you move :( I know it sux, but Pavel is only trying to protect the 
> code he has written.
> 

It's an interesting quandary, we ran across this with a certain accounting 
system when attempting to take business data on the road on a laptop for invoicing.


The suppliers argument is essentially this:

Due to the threat of dishonest people using my software ( who will regardless of 
what measures are put in place ) I intend to make my legal customers pay for 
their licenses multiple times even though they are a single user with multiple 
systems and even though they have demonstrated lawful intent by purchasing the 
system in the first place...

Or more succinctly, as a result of being screwed by unknown non-customers I 
intend to recoup my imaginary loss by shafting my paying customers in return. I 
should add that while bemoaning the situation I don't have a universal solution 
to it either, people need a way of safeguarding their livelihood. I do know that 
a particular supplier while initially offering a backup laptop license later 
reneged so off to GCC we went.

Having your business success hinge on real-time access to other people ( had a 
development PC crash the night before a delivery is due? not yet??  ) no longer 
does it for me. Where possible I now use open source, sometimes it's a pain in 
the butt but at least I can set it up & run it without outside intervention.

We are following a similar line with our teenagers at home. Do not pirate music, 
pure & simple. But if the supplier places undue chains on their product don't 
pay them either, just completely ignore them and their product. Ultimately the 
consumer is the one with the money to start with & if the supplier ceases to 
offer an appealing product then they go broke, simple but for some reason these 
days completely forgotten.

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Cheers

Don

Re: [AVR-Chat] A quickie for those who have it:

2006-11-30 by Alexandre GuimarĂ£es

Hi, Dave

    I have seen in more than one ocasion talks about Pavel sending one more 
license for Notebooks. He did it to me.. I am not sure he will do for more 
than 2... Asking him is the best way.. He is quite reasonable... And his 
compiler is nice for "die hard" assembler coders like you and me :-) Much 
better than any other compiler I saw for the AVR's. I am even using it for 
projects with the Tiny13 where i have almost no C and lot's of assembler. It 
mixes easily..

Best regards,
Alexandre Guimaraes



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> CVAVR: Will I have problems if I want to install it on multiple
> computers?  I'm a one-man-show here, but I run five computers and a
> laptop. Basically the idea is that I can task-swap easier by having
> multiple physical benches, and of course I need to travel once in a
> while.
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> I have no intent to use more than one "seat" as there will never be
> more than one person using the software, I just don't want to have to
> go through a bunch of hoops to move from computer to computer.
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Re: [AVR-Chat] A quickie for those who have it:

2006-12-01 by Don Ingram

Dave VanHorn wrote:
> CVAVR: Will I have problems if I want to install it on multiple 
> computers?  I'm a one-man-show here, but I run five computers and a 
> laptop. Basically the idea is that I can task-swap easier by having 
> multiple physical benches, and of course I need to travel once in a 
> while.
> 
> I have no intent to use more than one "seat" as there will never be 
> more than one person using the software, I just don't want to have to 
> go through a bunch of hoops to move from computer to computer.
> 
David,

Another angle is to install it on one PC & VNC to it from the rest. Generally if 
using this product I use an external editor & chip programmer anyway. As long as 
it can see the current project directory ( wherever it may be mapped on the 
network ) then you can compile it. As it is a batch process, VNC delays have 
little impact on usability. This circumvents the license / dongle/ sacrifice of 
first born issues.


-- 
Cheers

Don

Re: [AVR-Chat] A quickie for those who have it:

2006-12-01 by David VanHorn

>
>
> Another angle is to install it on one PC & VNC to it from the rest.
> Generally if
> using this product I use an external editor & chip programmer anyway. As
> long as
> it can see the current project directory ( wherever it may be mapped on
> the
> network ) then you can compile it. As it is a batch process, VNC delays
> have
> little impact on usability. This circumvents the license / dongle/
> sacrifice of
> first born issues.


Hmm.. That might work nicely, I do have a dedicated server here that usually
isn't doing much


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Re: [AVR-Chat] A quickie for those who have it:

2006-12-02 by David VanHorn

To all who replied, thanks.

I have a copy of CV now, and I'll deal with the restrictions one way or
another,  thanks.


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