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Does anyone have information on the debugWIRE interface.  The 2 pages in
the Tiny13 datasheet are only enough to tell me that it exists, but are
inadequate to actually design an interface or write code.

I've searched Atmel's appnotes and all of the datasheets of their other
devices with debugWIRE (I think only the Tiny2313 and Tiny13 have it)
and have found no additional information.

Thanks Bruce, I was aware of the 2 pages devoted to this in the 
current Tiny13 and Tiny2313 data sheets.  I don't want to debug, I 
just want to be able to program the non-volatile memories via the 1 
wire interface as they are promising on page 92.

> Check page 92 of the current ATtiny13 data sheet. My guess is that 
Atmel will
> pop up with a $30 wigit as soon as they have support in studio...

Thanks Bruce, I was aware of the 2 pages devoted to this in the 
current Tiny13 and Tiny2313 data sheets.  I don't want to debug, I 
just want to be able to program the non-volatile memories via the 1 
wire interface as they are promising on page 92.

> Check page 92 of the current ATtiny13 data sheet. My guess is that 
Atmel will
> pop up with a $30 wigit as soon as they have support in studio...

Check page 92 of the current ATtiny13 data sheet. My guess is that Atmel will
pop up with a $30 wigit as soon as they have support in studio...

Bruce

Lyle Killough wrote:

> 
> Does anyone have information on the debugWIRE interface.  The 2 pages in
> the Tiny13 datasheet are only enough to tell me that it exists, but are
> inadequate to actually design an interface or write code.
> 
> I've searched Atmel's appnotes and all of the datasheets of their other
> devices with debugWIRE (I think only the Tiny2313 and Tiny13 have it)
> and have found no additional information.

At 11:34 AM 1/12/03 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Check page 92 of the current ATtiny13 data sheet. My guess is that Atmel will
>pop up with a $30 wigit as soon as they have support in studio...
>

I hope so!! They were talking the price of an ICE40 which is about
AU$1,000.00

Regards

John Samperi

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More likely they'll make a JTAGICE like unit - a $350 unit with a mega8 and 
5-6 other simple components.

The debugWire protocol will most likely be secret. As usual.
But well, gives the hackers a few hours of work.

/Jesper
www.yampp.com

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "John Samperi" <samperi@ampertronics.com.au>
To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] debugWIRE specifications


> At 11:34 AM 1/12/03 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> >Check page 92 of the current ATtiny13 data sheet. My guess is that Atmel will
> >pop up with a $30 wigit as soon as they have support in studio...
> >
> 
> I hope so!! They were talking the price of an ICE40 which is about
> AU$1,000.00
> 
> Regards
> 
> John Samperi
> 
> ******************************************************
>                         Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.
>   11 Brokenwood Place Baulkham Hills, NSW 2153 AUSTRALIA
>          Tel. (02) 9674-6495       Fax (02) 9674-8745
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I cannot fathom why ICE and Debugger is so expensive especially so when they are related to PICs. So far, I noticed Atmel is quite honest in their pricing on their development tools. At least, tools that are for the low-end model of their MCUs. Hence, it is true that before one decides which 'brand' of MCUs he/ she should embarked upon, the costs of the relevant tools should also be taken into consideration.
 
I am a newbie and I started out using PICs (just follow projects appeared in magazines). But, I want to make projects that I can call them, "my projects". However, the cost of the development tools for PICs are beyond my reach. Hence, I have decided to adopt AVRs instead. So far, I have invested in a STK500, STK501 and ordered the ATICE200. Although it is not cheap but at least, I can purchase them piece-meal and yet, each can works on its own.
 
May I know what is JTAGICE for and what is the difference between JTAGICE and ATICE200 ? I kept bumping into the term JTAGICE.
 
cheers,
Davis

Jesper Hansen <jesperh@telia.com> wrote:
More likely they'll make a JTAGICE like unit - a $350 unit with a mega8 and 
5-6 other simple components.

The debugWire protocol will most likely be secret. As usual.
But well, gives the hackers a few hours of work.

/Jesper
www.yampp.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Samperi" <samperi@ampertronics.com.au>
To: <AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] debugWIRE specifications


> At 11:34 AM 1/12/03 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> >Check page 92 of the current ATtiny13 data sheet. My guess is that Atmel will
> >pop up with a $30 wigit as soon as they have support in studio...
> >
> 
> I hope so!! They were talking the price of an ICE40 which is about
> AU$1,000.00
> 
> Regards
> 
> John Samperi
> 
> ******************************************************
>                         Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.
>   11 Brokenwood Place Baulkham Hills, NSW 2153 AUSTRALIA
>          Tel. (02) 9674-6495       Fax (02) 9674-8745
>                Email: samperi@ampertronics.com.au
>                  Website  http://ampertronics.com.au
> * Electronic Design   * Technical Services   * Contract Assembly
> ******************************************************
> 
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