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Re: VZ sysex bulk data transfers and error messages

2004-09-05 by zog2zog2003

Thanks Steve,
I have sysex working ok in Midi-Ox and Sonar now, was just putting my 
results there for anybody's future reference.

That's an interesting thing to use debug for, I kind of like debug.

Midi-Ox is free for personal use, and it has a sysex edit window.  It 
has a lot of features I'm just now looking at.  I use either that or 
Hubi's loopback driver when I'm not using Sonar.  There's a free VST 
host that's little, and has some midi functions, like a step-
sequencer.  Sometimes I run that in a separate computer, connected by 
Midi-ox.

Pete

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
> I have heard of MidiOX over the years, but have never used it.  I 
> have been working with Cakewalk software since MS-DOS. It handles 
my 
> sysex needs nicely. I might download MidiOx when I have a chance 
just 
> to see what's going on there. Is it freeware?
> 
> The VZCard9.syx file (in the files section)is on channel 1, so your 
> VZ settings should work.  I am wondering if MidiOx is sending out 
the 
> sysex data straight, or if it is sending something else first.
> 
> (I assume for data type you chose VC+OP.)  WIthout looking at 
MidiOx, 
> I am not sure what else to suggest.  Do you have a sequencer that 
> sends sysex data?
> 
> At this point you probably don't need to use debug, unless you just 
> want to take a look at some sysex files.
> 
> Debug came with MS-DOS and is still part of windows.  It is a 
simple 
> utility.
> 
> I recommend saving a copy of the sysex files you will be looking at 
> to a folder in your root directory.  I usually create C:\temp and 
> copy the files there. Then:
> 
> (1) From Windows Start, click Run, type: command
> This should take you to a C: prompt in a dos window.
> 
> (2) Change the prompt to wherever the files are using the cd 
command 
> (for change directory).
> I type cd c:/temp
> 
> (3) At C:\temp dir *.syx will list the sysex files you have placed 
> there.
> 
> (4) Type debug vzcard9.syx [for example]
> 
> (5) Type d 100 <enter> to start displaying the data.  Type d 
<enter> 
> to see another block of data.
> 
> Other debug commands:
> ? = list of debug commands
> q = quit [then type exit to close the dos window]
> n = name
> EXAMPLE: n vzcard8.syx
> l = load
> s = search
> EXAMPLE: s 100 ffff f0 44 03
> d = display
> EXAMPLE: d db8f
> 
> I highly recommend not changing anything around with debug unless 
you 
> know what you are doing.  In other words, don't use the fill or 
enter 
> commands without knowing first what you are changing.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
wrote:
> > Hi Steve! Many thanks for the infos! 
> > 
> > I just tried to send that VZcard09, but still getting the same 
> message
> > ( Load Error / Check system ! ). 
> > I don“t have used "deBug". (is this a freeware application?). So 
i 
> am
> > not sure about the midichanel within the datafile.
> > 
> > here is what i did (used MidiOx):
> > 02 MEM PROTECT - INTERNAL OFF
> > 04 MIDI CHANNEL -  I set it to "1"
> > 05 MIDI DATA - ECLUSIVE enabled
> > 03 LOAD - LOAD/SAVE > MIDI > [data type] > YES, YES
> > 
> > As soon MidiOx starts to send the sysexdata, the VZ-10m gives me 
> that
> > error....
> > 
> > is there anything i am doing wrong?
> > 
> > phono
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
mail@p...>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "phonophobie" <sidstation@h...> 
> wrote:
> > > > Last night i tried to send sysex banks from midiOX to my 
VZ10m 
> too.
> > > > I was getting an ERROR message all the time. ( vz said 
something
> > > > about midi error/ Check system ).
> > > 
> > > Here are the error messages I have been getting when sending VZ 
> sysex 
> > > data to the VZ-8m. (See my previous message about channel and 
> data 
> > > type matching.)
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Message: --TRANS ERROR--- | CHECK SYSTEM!
> > > Problem: Data channel <> VZ receive channel
> > > Solution: Change VZ channel to match sysex file data.
> > > 
> > > Message: --MIDI ERROR--- | RECEIVE ERROR
> > > Problem: Data type transmitted <> Data type expected
> > > Solution: Select proper data type when loading data type into 
VZ.
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To see the channel and size of data, you can use debug [PC].
> > > 
> > > EXAMPLE [VZCard9.syx]:
> > > F0 44 03 00 70 70 02 F7
> > > F0 = system exclusive data coming
> > > 44 = Casio product ID
> > > 03 = VZ line
> > > 00 = VZ-1 format data [02 = VZ-8m format data]
> > > 70 = channel 1 [7N where N = 0->F meaningchannels 1->16]
> > > 70 = open communication
> > > 02 = INT 64 voices + 64 op-mems
> > > F7 = end of sysex transmission.
> > > 
> > > F0 44 03 00 70 74 . . . [data] . . . F7
> > > 74 = data is coming next
> > > 
> > > other codes for the 6th byte:
> > > 71 = close
> > > 72 = ok
> > > 73 = error
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > For the VZ-8m, I have the following SYSEX data sizes [received 
> from 
> > > VZ]:
> > > 
> > > 65661 = FULL [Voice + Op-Men + Total]
> > > 65644 = VC+OP [Voice + Op-Mem]
> > > 43094 = VOICE
> > > 22672 = OPMEM
> > > 
> > > The VZ files posted in files are 55958 which I assume is the VZ-
> 1/VZ-
> > > 10M VC+OP size.
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Hope this helps.
> > > --Steve

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