Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

The CZ-1 sounds "thinner"-yikes.

Does anybody else agree with this.  When you say
"thinner"-how noticable of a difference are we
talking about between the two-huge-or slight. 
Like on final mix, could you tell if one used a
CZ-1 compared to a CZ-101?

micah


--- Terry <daytona@...> wrote:
> 
> Hi Everybody,
>  OK, from my experience the CZ-1 sounds thinner
> than the CZ-101.
> The CZ-101 just blows away the CZ-1 when it
> comes to the bass and
> range. I play by ear and find I get more of
> "THAT" sound from the 
> CZ-101. They sound close, but no cigar for the
> CZ-1. It's just 
> missing something that is difficult to
> describe.
>  Could be a few reasons for this. The CZ-101
> does use different CPU 
> (uPD7811G)than the CZ-1(uPD7810HG), but both
> use the similar uPD933D
> (CZ101)and uPD933AC(uses 2 of these on CZ1) for
> the music LSI. The 
> 12-bit DAC and expanders are also different
> components on the CZ-101 
> and CZ-1. So there are some slight differences
> in the sound
> generating hardware on these synths, they are
> not identical.
>  But perhaps the biggest difference is the
> voltage applied to the 4558
> final output op-amp. The CZ-101 being battery
> powered, runs on 
> +,-9 volts, while the CZ-1 runs at +,-15 volts.
> The original designers
> of the CZ optimized the design around the
> original CZ-101. 
>  Should be noted all of the battery powered
> CZ's use identical 
> components for sound generation. (CZ101,1000,
> 230S). Not sure about 
> the CZ3000,5000. But I suspect there may be a
> slight difference, as 
> when I A/B my 3000 to the 101, I still prefer
> the sound of the CZ-101.
> Could be the 9 volts driving that 4558 making
> the difference?
>  I like all of my CZ's, and I wish my supirior
> CZ-1 sounded as good
> as my battery operated CZ's, but the portables
> seem to have an
> edge soundwise, to my ears anyway!
> 
> Terry (The Casio Kid)
> 
> > > > I've heard rumors that the CZ-1 doesn't
> have the
> > > > same "punch", "bass", "low 
> > > > end" and other stuff that the
> CZ-101,1000,3000,5000
> > > > have?
> > > > 
> > > > Is there any truth to this. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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