Hi Steve, > > I only used a CZ-101 in a store, with headphones, so I can't compare > the two. Wow,that is one area where the CZ-101 really fails. They put the crappiest op-amp on the headphone out, has a built in white noise generator. Anyone ever complains that thier CZ-101 is noisy, they have probably pluged into the headphone out. Line out is fine. > If someone has a CZ-101, a CZ-1, a soundcard, a sequencer, and a > cable to record the output of the Casios, they can make audio files > of the same tune on the same preset and place them in the files > section (FileA.mid and FileB.mid) so we can do a blind test and > possibly vote on whether or not we hear a difference. > > --Steve OK, I'll give this a shot! I found some really big differences in the two. With both CZ's volume set at max, the CZ-101 had a much hotter signal. Had to set the CZ-101 to about 8 to match the CZ-1. Simple answer, "The volume on the CZ-101 goes to 11, man!" :) Another interesting difference is with the extra op-amp on the CZ-1 for final volume, all of the CZ-1's waveforms are inverted phase? So I guess the CZ-1 is an "Inverted Phase-distrotion Synth". :) Really, all of the CZ-1 recorded sounds mirrored the sounds recorded on the CZ-101. Very strange but obvious if you study the schematics. Some of the waveforms don't really matter as they are symetrical, but most, like the saw wave is positive on the CZ-101 and negative on the CZ-1. I suspect the CZ-3000/5000 are also inverted as they too have the extra inverting op-amp. So I made a few sound samples and uploaded them into the files section. Some of the patches are dead on, with no difference, while others I had to double check as they sounded like different patches. Files recorded with same MIDI file run into a Anatek thru, audio out into a Boss A/B switch. Recorded CZ-1 first then the CZ-101. Volumes set with a meter to be about the same. All patches sent via MIDI to both synths. All velocity,aftertouch settings on CZ-1 set at 0. These were CZ-101 patches so the CZ-1 automaticly sets defaults for the extra paramaters. Level 15, velocity amp=0 wave=0 pitch=0. Is there a difference? Terry (The Casio Kid)
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Re: CZ-1 sound-same as 101,1000,3000,5000
2005-03-26 by Terry
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