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Re: [CZsynth] VZ users-would you please say "I"

2005-08-26 by Summa

On 26 Aug 2005 at 10:25, Scott Nordlund wrote:

> >I like that it combines FM with Ringmodulation, I dislike that it
> >uses constant waves instead of feedback since feedback is better for
> >the "filter type" sweeps...
> 
> It's really pretty limited for straight FM- the voice structure is
> versitile enough in theory, but when operator pairs are strictly
> limited to a modulator:carrier ratio of 2:1, it really constricts
> things.  It works well enough for a 2-operator pair ring-modulated
> with another wave, but it doesn't have near the flexibility of FM
> algorithms.

That's not completely true if you use 4 Operators you can have at least two 
operators with free definable fequencies, check my tutorial...
 
> Also the saw waves are less useful than you'd think with FM- it
> enables some interesting flavors that a DX definately can't do (at
> least the sine-wave-only synths), bright square and saw timbres (even
> a decent approximation of pulsewidth modulation), but mostly when used
> with FM it just sounds harsh and distorted, regardless of frequency
> ratio- and with no filters, the brighter sounds end up being pretty
> static.

I don't see that, since with feedback (what also creates saw type timbres) and 3 
Operators I can recreate nearly every non resonant CZ waveform and be able to 
simulate filter sweeps (with static waveforms it lacks quality). Feedback or 
those static saw waveforms are needed for rich non sinusoid timbres


> And the envelope attack is annoying with longer attacks (it's the
> wrong shape)- to give a more natural feel it needs 2 or 3 stages,
> which is a pain to program (but I had the same problem with the TX7-
That's a general problem of linear envelopes...

> So yeah, it's very powerful and great, but best used with other
> synths.  Its limitations might become too frustrating if you don't
> also have something else to use.

Shouldn't be ones first synth and one should be a passionate FM geek to get along 
with it. But I could imagine making a song with this synth only...

...Summa


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