On 27 Aug 2005 at 17:11, Scott Nordlund wrote: > >#1 is possible, the complete 3-6 Operator line, if you can live with > >#the > >1:2 > >limitation for 1,2 and 5,6 even the complete algorithm.. > > ...etc. > > The problem is that I really don't like the fixed ratio limitation- > even if the ratio is suitable for the sound, I generally prefer to > subtly detune all of the oscillators from each other to get a thicker > sound. So I avoid FM unless I can really do it "right". You can at least work completely free with 4 Operators, using one operator per module to define the frequency, but it involves a bit planing to create the algorithms... > > > 0 Hz? I've noticed it can go a lot lower than the DX but I don't > > > think it goes all the way down to 0 Hz... does it? > > > >It does go down to 0Hz... > > Maybe I should check that again. Well, I rechecked... it's been nearly 9 month since I touched the VZ soundprogramming wise, I think you're right, there's still a modulation of about 0.5Hz or less in the sound... > > > The two LFOs are definately appreciated, though honestly I don't > > > use the tremolo much. > > > >Since it's possible to change its influence for single operators it > >can be the basis for moving/changing sounds and another way to create > >PWM type sounds... > > Yeah, I usually use fixed-frequency ring mod instead. Hmmm, that should simply do the tremolo thing... > The "multi" setting on the LFO page enables a different LFO for each > voice- unlike the DX7 (and a lot of other synths) that only has one > global LFO. I think I read somewhere that the TX802 and DX7-II models > have this feature. I see, I know that problem from the AN200 but in that case I can use the freedraw envelopes to get so much modulation into the sound that noone will recognise the limitation. Btw. when it comes to the TX802, it's part of the voice settings... > > > I'm not saying the ESQ-M is the king of all synths any more than > > > the VZ is, but waveforms, when used with AM or sync, can do some > > > radical > > > >AM before or after filter? > > Before. Oscillator 1 modulates Oscillator 2. Doesn't seem that great > that great at first but it enables all kinds of really nasty weird > sounds, or really thick sounds, or whatever. If prefere having Oscillator1 -> Filter1 -> AM / Oscillator2 -> Filter2 -> AM the way it's possible with the MT32/D110/D50/JV/XV/Fantom/K5000 Synths. That can be source for interesting controllable timbre changes like voice, radio noises or even plucked string type sounds... > >Well, I haven't tried that but the VZ-1 should be able to do panning > >too when layer a patch with tremolo settings with itsef and using the > >tremolo invert switch of the OP-Mems... > > I hadn't thought of that! But usually when using operation memories > I'd just detune the patch against itself in stereo and invert the > vibrato, the sound is then interesting enough that I don't need the > panning effects. That depends on the sound, some FX or ambient type pads can be improved with some panning. But I guess I currently think too much on making stylisch impressive sounds due to my job... ...Summa -- CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/ FS1R mailing list : http://www.ampfea.org/mailman/listinfo/fss-list Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator Wellenform Chat So and Do 22.00 CET: http://chat.moogulator.com/
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Re: [CZsynth] VZ users-would you please say "I"
2005-08-30 by Summa