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CZ-1 Patches Via Sysex

2007-03-17 by Fulfil Objective

Also, I have been using the patch dumps you made and I definitely
appreciate the work.  It's fun to pump the machine full of new sounds
in just a few seconds.

I have not been able to get a functioning patch editor and librarian
working on my computer, though, and that's still big hangnail in my
life.  I can dump sysex data back and forth with MIDIOX.  But I wish I
had a little (free) program on my computer that would let me
manipulate the sysex data.  I've read back through this yahoo group
for ideas, and tried all of them I could find.

What I would like to be able to do is rearrange/rename the patches in
any given sysex dump.  For example, you have them arranged in what
looks like rough alphabetical order.  I would like to make a dump that
is all organs, one that is all electric pianos, one that is all toy
pianos, one that is all basses, one that is all synth leads, etc. 
That way they would be more suited to my needs.  It's just hex data,
so it doesn't seem like it would be that hard.

Also I'm on the lookout for a patch editor, so that I can quickly make
changes on a computer and shoot them over to the keyboard.  It seems
like that would be faster and better than messing with the little LCD
screen and nested menus.  I've read back in this group as well, but
haven't had any luck.

I even ran the Atari emulator and tried CZDROID and CZRIDER.  CZRIDER
was really promising as a patch editor, but it wasn't quite 100%.

I also tried CZPATCH and CZEDIT running under DOS emulators, but had
similar problems.  The programs worked, but they couldn't talk to the
keyboard, probably because they are being run under emulators.

Here is a list of the things I've tried and some of my notes:


CZ Sysex Editor
---------------
by Alfonso Hermida
- Won't send data to CZ-1.
- Saves as .syx, so I can send the saved data with MIDIOX.
- But MIDIOX doesn't transmit the patch names.
- Also, when saving as .syx the program doesn't save the patch data.
- Can't control where patches are sent.
- Can't transmit velocity and aftertouch data.


CZDROID running on STEEM Atari Emulator
---------------------------------------
1986 by Tom Bajoras
- Droid function for random patches is cool
- Edits patches fine, but doesn't send them to the CZ-1
- Doesn't save data in a sysex format, so patches created here can't
really be used.


CZRIDER running on STEEM Atari Emulator
---------------------------------------
by Bob Melvin
- Edits patches nicely
- Saves patches to disk
- Recalls saved patches
- Can send a collection of patches to CZ-1, but patch names aren't
transmitted.
- Can't retrieve patch data from CZ-1.
- Can't transmit patch names.
- Can't control where patches are sent.
- Can't transmit velocity and aftertouch data.


CZPATCH running on DOSBox DOS Emulator
--------------------------------------
1991 by Karl Schmidt
- Librarian only
- Can't talk MIDI with CZ-1, maybe because of emulator
- Seems difficult to use for renaming and regrouping patches.


CZEDIT running on DOSBox DOS Emulator
-------------------------------------
1988 by Gary P. Richardi
- groovy DOS patch editor.
- editing patches works fine
- Can't talk MIDI with CZ-1, maybe because of emulator
- Can't retrieve patch data from CZ-1, hangs
- I should try this with legit DOS instead of emulator


CZLIB
-----
by Matthew Suffidy
- Librarian only, not a patch editor
- Could not make it talk to CZ-1.
- Made for CZ-101, Maybe it has a different handshake than CZ-1?

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