Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

You say:
"in the 1990s back when ones [sic] music library was limited by ones
[sic] budget." 
My music library is still limited by my budget.  Can you advise?

-synergeezer


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "zoinky420" <zoinky420@...> wrote:
>
> 
> >It's best to think of it as a sort of
> > updated PPG Wave.
> 
> Well, it IS an updated PPG, but the PPG Wave is far more rare than 
> the Microwave, so its not best to think of it as an updated version 
> of something most people have never heard if those people actually 
> want to get some idea of what it sounds like without hearing one.  
> 
> There were several versions of the Microwave, the original was 
> 12bit.  I've never used one but I'm familiar with its sound signature 
> from various CDs I listened to a jillion times in the 1990s back when 
> ones music library was limited by ones budget.  I think describing 
> its sound as somewhere between the Poly 800 and CZ is pretty 
> accurate. I'm sure you've read the technical details, the Microwave 
> is a 'real' wavetable synth.  When I think of Microwave I think of a 
> digital-sounding analogish sample-hold circuit making bubbly sounds 
> sort of like a TB-303, but not really.  It seems to allow for quite a 
> bit of real-time variation, for example, if you trigger it on a 4/4 
> rhythm you can get it to constantly put out a slightly different hit 
> on each beat, by setting it randomize some of its modulation 
> parameters (which is what makes it sound like a sample-hold 
> circuit).  Intermix's first album is loaded with Microwave without a 
> lot of additional effects applied, so it's a good album to listen to 
> for hearing the Microwave's potential.  Personally, I don't think 
> they're really worth the price they command on the used market.  
> Wavetable is the cheapest digital synthesis method to impliment, but 
> I guess because Waldorf and PPG were small companies they were not 
> able to mass-produce like Casio, Yamaha or Roland, thus their cheaper 
> technology ends up costing more.  For $300-500 I'd rather get a K2000 
> or even a Yamaha SY77.  Those synths aren't known for a 
> particular 'sound' because they can make so many sounds.  A Microwave 
> can probably make a lot of different sounds, too, but it seems like 
> most people use that bubbly sample-hold sound exclusively, relegating 
> it to a one-trick pony.  This leads me to believe that it may be 
> difficult to program other sounds, sort of like how you can very 
> easily turn the ring mod or noise source on on the CZ with the press 
> of a button, but getting anything else requires much deeper 
> programming.
> 
>     
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Jez <jezosaurus@> wrote:
> >
> > I have a Microwave. All synths are different and have their own
> > character, BUT the Microwave is far superior to a poly-800 and 
> better
> > than a CZ series for most things.
> > 
> > Ideally, I would have all 3, but if I had to choose, the Microwave 
> is
> > by far the best of the lot. It's best to think of it as a sort of
> > updated PPG Wave.
> > 
> > Try asking the Q on a Waldorf mailing list and see what reaction 
> you get.
> > I'd recommend user-forum@
> > 
> > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Atom Smasher <atom@> wrote:
> > > i'm considering a new toy, and recently someone suggested that i 
> look into
> > > a waldorf microwave. i listened to some microwave sounds that 
> were posted
> > > online, and they all sound like either a casio CZ or a modified 
> (slayer +
> > > fm) korg poly-800.
> > >
> > > can anyone on these lists give me an opinion of the microwave, 
> compared to
> > > the CZ and/or modified poly-800?
> > >
> > > thanks...
> > >
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