Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Oh yeah!
I have two CZ-101s, a CZ-1000, a CZ-5000, and a CZ-1 (and several
VZs).  Ain't it great!?
But are you related to Don Buchla?

synergeezer



--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, zebra <ezra.buchla@...> wrote:
>
> yes, and yes it is OT. but actually i don't really get into ranting
> about gear, but i can't really help ranting about this stuff cause
> it's kindof in my face a lot these days.
> 
> i do have a cz1 and two 101's, love em to death (over and over)
> 
> i do buy cd's and vinyl, i really need the dynamic range (yay mastering)
> 
> so my nerd credentials are intact.
> 
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM, synergeezer <synergeezer@...> wrote:
> > Zebra, I agree with most of what you have said. Are you related to
Don?
> > This _is_ OT, isn't it?
> > I agree with Ayn Rand's view as expressed very well in "The
> > Fountainhead" (don't read anything else she wrote!), that the creator
> > of a work, music in our discussion, architecture in hers, should have
> > approval on the use of his, or her, works.
> > I would think of an artist as foolish, who didn't take advantage of
> > the promotional opportunities of current technologies, but it should
> > be up to the artist. Artists are not always wise, but wisdom is not
> > necessarily expected of them. (Anyone care for a slice of Van Gogh's
> > ear?)
> > In case you're not as deep into your geezerhood as I am, here's a
> > reminiscence: When Pop/Rock/Soul music exploded in the late 1960s and
> > early 1970s, the businessmen didn't know how to take advantage of it.
> > They hired musicians to help them make more money off the
> > music-loving kids. The musicians they hired helped their musician
> > friends to make records. This was the Golden Age of Cut-Outs (vinyl
> > LPs that were essentially discarded by the record companies -
> > containing some extremely interesting stuff amid Sturgeon's crap)!
> > Between my degree in philosophy and my (fall-back) career in
> > computers, I managed a record store in the mid-70s. There were a
> > great many artists who were given major label contracts because their
> > musician friends inside the music industry liked their music. Many
> > stiffed after one LP, but there were a lot of artists who became
> > recognized as great, who would not have made it through the world of
> > marketing in the music bidness. The "cut-outs" were cheap, and
> > sometimes interesting. I wish I had bought the live recording of a
> > Marcel Marceau (a famous mime) concert!
> > Regarding the issue of "attention span", current technology has
> > enabled an ever-decreasing tendency of many in this area. From an
> > early age, I found myself remembering musicians whose work I admired,
> > and, if I found myself admiring several songs by an artist, they
> > became high on my list for the purchase of LPs. That's why I have
> > albums by The Ventures, Roy Orbison, The Doors, Roger Miller, and The
> > Four Tops. (Aren't you glad you asked!)
> > I didn't buy many 45's. I don't buy many MP3s.
> > Most real artists (in my opinion) have more to say than what they say
> > in a single song! I think the grain of expression for artists I like
> > is the album (LP or CD - now a DVD?)
> > I like CDBaby, and I'm their favorite customer! (FYIYDGTJ!) Go there
> > for Happy Rhodes, Trashcan Joe, Rachel Taylor Brown, Chris Robley.
> > Go elsewhere for Allan Holdsworth, Conrad Schnitzler, Mike Oldfield.
> >
> > kthxbye
> > Synergeezer
> > (The Synergy DKII is the best music synthesizer ever made!)
> >
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "ezra buchla" <ezra.buchla@> wrote:
> >>
> >> look, this all seems a little out of hand for an OT discussion. it's
> >> fun to think about, but my only point is that it seems to me that
it's
> >> harder to make a living as an independent musician than it used to be
> >> when people bought more music. that's not rocket science!
> >>
> >> i only posted in the first place because it seemed to me like you
were
> >> saying that people who complain about diminishing revenue from record
> >> sales are just whiners and should be on CDbaby or something. i know
> >> you probably weren't really saying exactly that, but i thought
another
> >> perspective wouldn't hurt.
> >>
> >> forget about my own situation, i'm kind of sorry i ever brought it
> >> into the mix; my decisions have been made for my own reasons
which are
> >> largely not pecuniary at all, as you've pointed out.
> >>
> >> but it is absolutely true that many musicians who i consider my
> >> friends, whose work i have known and respected for many years,
and who
> >> have been in the game for a long-ass time, are no longer able to tour
> >> self-sufficiently in this country. some of that has to do with oil
> >> prices and other factors, but a huge part of it is the much, much,
> >> much-reduced market for physical copies of recordings, and the fact
> >> that the independent distributors and brick-and-mortars are gone,
> >> replaced by digital entities which probably don't have the same
> >> interests at heart (e.g., they are "not punk.")
> >>
> >> some people can deal with this by evolving into new, sleeker
beasts...
> >> other people are really used to supporting themselves on the old
indie
> >> model of selling your own records directly (or at least more
directly)
> >> to the people who want to hear it (which makes sense to me).
> >>
> >> incidentally, these people largely rely on making music in groups,
> >> with other people, with real instruments, which all entails a
large...
> >> um, meat-space commitment. meat music. maybe that's relevant.
> >>
> >> digital distribution as it exists now is centralized and diembodied.
> >> some musical cultures are already well adapted to those attributes,
> >> others really are not, and have always been driven by localized,
> >> face-to-face experiences.
> >>
> >> also, i'm talking about styles of music that will never produce
> >> "hits." they never have. and yet, people make the music, spend their
> >> whole lives at it, and other people listen to the music, and some
kind
> >> of money has to change hands somewhere to keep the cycle going.
> >>
> >> anyway, it's really really weird right now for independent (or maybe
> >> "underground" is a better term) musicians and labels, who don't have
> >> the luxury of experimentating with their revenue model. all i ask is
> >> that you please don't dismiss the issue.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 5:49 PM, ezra buchla <ezra.buchla@> wrote:
> >> >> Yeah, and if you think you have to cater to the fickle trends
of the
> >> >> masses now, if you were to live in a world where musicians worked
> > under
> >> >> patronage of a 'powerful individual', you'd have to be content
> > writing
> >> >> songs with titles like "All Hail Super Wonderous Godlike Bill
Gates
> >> >> Hero", or "Ode To The Greatest Being Ever Conceived: Adolf
> > Hitler" for
> >> >> the rest of your life...
> >> >
> >> > ha! i know, i'd much rather just be able to sell a few
records... ;)
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>