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Re: Problem sending patches with Sysex Librarian to CZ 101

2009-03-13 by Jeremy Campbell

Man, I feel dumb, the problem was that I didn't have the proper 800ma ac adapter for it. Solved a bunch of weird issues I was having once I got it. Appreciate the help guys.

Jeremy

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Jeremy Campbell" <captainjc@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the replies guys. So yeah, seems like an issue with the sets of 101 patches. I will try the patch test and troubleshoot that issue. Worse comes to worse, maybe I can use midiox on my virtual pc to save out the sets as individual sounds. Seems a bit labor intensive so hopefully I can figure it out.
> 
> I just noticed that Sysex Librarian has the ability to set the length of the pause between messages, so maybe that has something to do with it.
> 
> In the mean time, if anyone knows where I can get single patch sysex files, would love to check that out.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeremy 
> 
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Fulfil Objective" <kasploosh@> wrote:
> >
> > Jeremy,
> > 
> > The Narfman patches are made specifically for the CZ-1. They have more information than the CZ-101 can handle. There are extra bytes in each patch for features that are unknown in the CZ-101, such as velocity. Also I think the patch headers are different than what a CZ-101 expects.
> > 
> > To sum up, these are not going to work in a CZ-101 without editing. So make sure you look for CZ-101/1000 patches, there are a bazillion of them.
> > 
> > As Steve mentions, the sysex files are hex data, so use a hex editor if you want to poke around in the insides of them. Don't use a text editor or it could save it wrongly. Some text editors can edit hex, like programmer's editors. But hex editors are fun, so why not use them?
> > 
> > Also keep in mind that some sysex files are SETS of patches, and some are individual patches. You will be able to tell by the file length.
> > 
> > 264 bytes = single CZ-101 patch
> > 4224 bytes = 16 CZ-101 patches (264 * 16)
> > 
> > 296 bytes = single CZ-1 patch (it's longer!)
> > 22016 bytes = 64 CZ-1 patches, plus operation memory.
> > 
> > Re-reading your message, I think you might have two different problems. Number one is that CZ-1 patches will probably not work in a CZ-101 without complicated editing.
> > 
> > Number two is that multi-patch sysex sets are not working. For that problem, I suggest trying again with something you KNOW is made for the CZ-101. It could be that you are trying to use CZ-1 data, or CZ-3000/5000 data.
> > 
> > I have had good luck sending sysex files to my CZ-101 using MIDIOX, so that could be another thing to try.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Jeremy Campbell" <captainjc@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been trying to use some of the sounds in the files section. I can load some individual sysex files just fine, but other just make the 101 switch off. It seems to have to do with how many sysex messages are sent. 
> > > 
> > > The 4 patches in FrankOsCZsounds.zip load up just fine (thanks!)
> > > 
> > > but when I try to load any of Narf's 471 Single Patches for the CZ1, no dice. 
> > > 
> > > The difference I've noticed is that with the former, it only sends 1 message. With the latter 2. 
> > > 
> > > Needless to say the some of the sysex files send 16 or more messages and none of those work. 
> > > 
> > > Anyone got any ideas? I can copy the text of these messages out of Sysex Librarian, but saving them as a text file with .syx extension doesn't work. What am I missing here. 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jeremy
> > >
> >
>

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