"One of these?" What do you mean "one of these?" Midi-ox is available as a free download; no need to look on e-bay. Or did you mean a CZ-101? or a CZ-1000? or a CZ-3000? or a CZ-230s? or a CZ-5000? or a CZ-1? Sorry, but my mind-reading is not working this evening. --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Chris G <numanuma201@...> wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can get one of these beside ebay? > > > ________________________________ > From: charlie 'chop' copp <charles.copp@...> > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 6:30 PM > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Sysx patches and CZ101 > > > Â > yes me too i use a conditional loop to request and spontaniousily > acknowledge 0to15 voice banks ,,it works > i still have the source code to my cz libraRian cz converter > and cz beta editor > > thats how you do it!!! even when writing your own program for computer > > one of the conditions to exit the loop early is if the array doesn't fill > will data ,,which basicilly implies it did not ack > > charles > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lee Borrell" <templarser@...> > To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: Sysx patches and CZ101 > > I think you have bypassed using 2 instances by sending the prompt from the > screen where you are RX-ing the dump - which I suppose is possible.The bulk > dump request is 16 single dump requests? Which is what I suggested would be > the case. > What you are doing here is basically what I do to transfer CZ101/1000 to a > 230s. (I think!!) > > --- On Fri, 30/9/11, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote: > > From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> > Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Sysx patches and CZ101 > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, 30 September, 2011, 2:14 > > Test number 4 (Using Send Request 1 to get a CZ patch): > > Using midi-ox I successfully requested and received a patch from the CZ. > Here's what I did: > > 1. In Command Window (top part of Sysex View and Scratchpad), type: > > f0 44 00 00 70 10 20 70 31 f7 > > [See explanation of Send Request 1 below] > > 2. Select Command Window menu item. > > 3. In dropdown box, choose Send/Receive Sysex. > > [If you get a "Contents Have Changed" dialog box, just say "No." > > 4. Click Done. > > [In my example, I received 263 bytes.] > > 5. Edit patch dump header so you can retransmit to the CZ later. > > Change > > F0 44 00 00 70 30 > > to > > F0 44 00 00 70 20 d1d2 [where d1d2 = the desired memory location] > > Please notice that you will replace the 30 with a 20 and then place the > target memory location immediately after. > > 5. Save edited patch data by right clicking inside display window and using > "Save as" option. > > =========================================== > > Explanation of Send Request 1 (f0 44 00 00 70 10 20 70 31 f7 > > ): > > f0 44 00 00 7n 10 d1d2 > > where n is the basic channel [0 = channel 1] > > and d1d2 = CZ memory bank [See original, easy to understand Casio "Guidebook > for MIDI Nov. 1985"] > > 7n 31 > > where n is the basic channel [0 = channel 1] > > 7n 31 is the computer telling the CZ to go ahead with sending the requested > data > > F7 closes the CZ sysex command chain. > > ====================================================== > > Well, that's basically one method for requesting, receiving, and saving > patches from your CZ using midi-ox. > > ====================================================== > > There may be an option to use a Atari CZ editor using Steem (or is it > STeam?) an Atari emulator for Windows. > > ====================================================== > > I was able to request a bank of 16 CZ patches from internal memory at once > in midi ox by using the following: > > f0 44 00 00 70 10 20 70 31 f7 f0 44 00 00 70 10 21 70 31 f7 f0 44 00 00 70 > 10 22 70 31 f7 f0 44 00 00 70 10 22 70 31 f7 f0 44 00 00 70 10 24 70 31 f7 > f0 44 00 00 70 10 25 70 31 f7 f0 44 00 00 70 10 26 70 31 f7 f0 44 00 00 70 > 10 27 70 31 f7 f0 44 00 00 70 10 28 70 31 f7 f0 44 00 00 70 10 29 70 31 f7 > f0 44 00 00 70 10 2A 70 31 f7 f0 44 00 00 70 10 2B 70 31 f7 f0 44 00 00 70 > 10 2C 70 31 f7 f0 44 00 00 70 10 2D 70 31 f7 f0 44 00 00 70 10 2E 70 31 f7 > f0 44 00 00 70 10 2F 70 31 f7 > > After getting the data from the CZ, I changed the first F0 44 00 00 70 30 to > F0 44 00 00 70 20 20 (see step 5 above), the second one to F0 44 00 00 70 > 21, etc. until F0 44 00 00 70 2F. Of course, I save the result and tested > the process by sending it back to the CZ. (Yes, it worked.) > > ==================================== > > I don't know if using 2 instances of midi-ox would make the process any > easier. On the other hand having patch librarian software (or an editor) > should make it easier. > > In the meantime, once you get the sysex thing working, you should be able to > use midi-ox. > > Hope this helps. > > Steve > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "hector" <hectorcrawfish@> wrote: > > [snip] > > > The CZ does not have a patch send receive command and relies on the > application on the PC for this to occur. I'd like to at least be able to > save any patches I create. Not for the 1st time I regret getting rid of my > Atari ST > > [snip] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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Re: Sysx patches and CZ101
2011-10-05 by steve_the_composer
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