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Re: [CZsynth] VZ-1 vs. Yamaha FS1R 8 op FM synth?

2012-08-17 by Summa

Hi,

according to the specs their are some main differences, like the VZ-1 
do combine (well, let me call it) Phase Modulation with 
Ringmodulation, even is able to use an envelope to croosfade between 
Ringmod an Amplitude Modulation. While the FS1R can't do 
ringmodulation but is able to combine formant oscillators (the 
formant frequency has its own envelope, bandwith is controllable in 
realtime) with FM (Phase Modulation), formant oscillators can be used 
as modulator or carrier.

Other than that, even so FS1R uses expanded the DX7 envelopes, the VZ 
envelopes with 8 Level/8 Times and selectable Sustain and Release 
stage, are a bit slower but more flexible.
The VZ-1 is missing the pitch envelopes per Operator, the 8 
additional noise operators (selectable noise frequency + envelope and 
bandwith can be reduced to sine), filter and FX section.

When it comes to the algorithms, the FS1R has 88 fixed ones while the 
VZ operator pairs can be configured freely within certain 
limitations.

When it comes to the sound, the character of VZ-1 is rather different 
to for instance a DX7, even with similar settings (and it's obviously 
the same sound), you'll recognise the differences most of the time. 
While the FS1R has been constructed to be an DX7 impersinator, even 
has a parameter wise identical (greatly expanded) DX7 core, it is 
flexible enough to cover most VA type sounds and (being pretty much 
an chameleon) even is able to do convincing VZ-1 alike sounding 
stuff, but only if you know what you're after. 

User Interface wise, when trying to make you're own sound, the VZ-1 
is a lot easier to programm without an editor compared to the FS1R, 
even so its display is rather slow. 

So I'd say, if you're into FM (Phase Modulation) and searching for a 
character wise alternative to the Yamaha stuff, it's like comparing 
moog to oberheim.
 
On 14 Aug 2012 at 23:21, mz82003 wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have the opportunity to buy a used VZ-1.
> 
> I already own a Yamaha FS1R 8 op FM (that is actually PM) synth, and
> according to its specs the VZ-1 has many similarities: like the FS1R
> it does phase modulation (PM), it has 8 oscillators and for each
> oscillator you can chose among several waveforms.
> 
> So I'm wondering if a VZ-1 could actually do something a Yamaha 8 op
> (with other-than-sine waves) FM synth cannot do, or would it be
> redundant?
> 
> Thanks for your advice.
> 
> 
> 
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