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Re: Speed of sysex transfer

2013-08-22 by steve_the_composer

You make some valid points. However, I have seen people in this chat make erroneous, false, and reckless comments before. When someone is trying to solve a problem, in my opinion giving poor advice is not helpful. In communication, there is something called "self-interest pleading." For example, someone who loves a Commodore 64 and every chance they get in a non-Commodore 64 forum they tell people about what they have done with their Commodore 64 and how they should get one to solve their problem is engaging in a version of what I would call self-interest pleading. (Yes, I know no one has talked about a C-64 here to this extent; this is just an extreme example.)

I think if you take a look at what I have done you might find that I try to diagnose issues and ask diagnostic question and propose tests to try to try to hone down the source of the problem.

I usually am polite, but sometimes it is very difficult when people say false things and offer erroneous opinions and on occasion give misguided advice.

Granted some people here sincerely try to be helpful.

However, telling people "One option is to use two instances of midi-ox to get it to solve your problem" and telling people "You need to use two instances of midi-ox, one to send and one to receive . . . " are two different things. (Again, this is just an example.)

Several years ago with the proliferation of computer audio, many people in some forums declared that "Midi is Dead!" Their opinion was that it was inferior to audio, it was designed in the dark ages (or at least an age preceding the age of technological enlightenment), it was slow and useless.

So, I did some research and found that the midi is not tied to 31.25 kbp/s according to the MMA. Of course, with the 5-pin din connector and optoisolator current-loop system older gear will never be able to use higher speeds. That doesn't mean future gear couldn't.

The point is that the death of midi as a communication vehicle was premature. Also, saying you need old computers to work with old gear because the old gear can't handle modern systems is not true. 

On the other hand, offering possible work-arounds is a good thing (in my opinion). 

But please let's not lose sight of the original problem that was posed. Toward that end, last night after posting the results of the tests I proposed, I googled usb midi interface problems with sysex. Here are a few links that (in my opinion) relate to (1) the original problem and (2) the uses of midi-ox to delay the transmission speed of midi data.

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=396436&sid=6e36daace30aba952586dc60a3424eb6
http://forum.highlyliquid.com/showthread.php?t=738
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/printview.php?t=372683&start=0

Steve 
 

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "fulfil_objective" <robot@...> wrote:

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> I think you are too focused on these vintage numbers like 31250 bps and 115200 bps. 

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