Yahoo Groups archive

Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:42 UTC

Message

Re: [CZsynth] Re: New to the list. Interested in "Balkan" CZ101 programming

2016-02-19 by bill bigrig

Better yet,go to a CZ-1. It's well worth the extra money.
rig

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 2/17/16, cooneypiano@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: [CZsynth] Re: New to the list. Interested in "Balkan" CZ101 programming
 To: CZsynth@...m
 Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016, 6:29 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Jumping back into this thread that I started last
 summer....
 I finished my first Ivo Papasov
 transcription and have slowly been working out how to play
 it on the CZ, using the pitch-bend for a lot of the
 ornaments. This has been a really fun project to work on and
 I've learned a lot. I find that after working on the
 passages slowly with the pitch-bend it eventually starts to
 feel more intuitive and I can start playing at faster
 tempos. (I decided to start with an Ivo transcription rather
 than a keyboardist transcription like Amza Tairov because I
 know that Amza got his style from imitating other
 instruments, learning how to do those ornamentations on the
 synth. Also I like Amza alright but I REALLY like Ivo. Plus
 Amza doesn't play in odd meters as much as Ivo.)
 
 It has been a very fun little
 puzzle figuring out how to do all the ornamentations with
 the pitch bend. Once I start to get the hang of it it
 actually makes many passages easier to play. My big problem
 now is that I find the mini-keys on the cz101 really
 difficult to navigate. I've been using a controller and
 have been just keeping my left hand up on the CZ
 pitch-wheel. But I'm thinking of swapping out the 101
 for a 1000. I seems silly to have a keyboard that I only use
 for the wheel (and sounds). I'd like to be able to
 actually play the keys if needed. I'm also not psyched
 about the controllers I've been using: I've been
 alternating between a cheap a midi controller and a Nord
 LEad 2x. The action on the Nord leaves much to be desired,
 though I think I could program some decent balkanish sounds
 on it. I've been considering getting something better to
 use as a controller.. maybe a Triton or a Dx7.
 
 I thought I'd try the 101
 first since that's what all those balkan players use.
 But I can see now why so many of them have strange-looking
 techniques. The mini keys force you to drop your wrist to
 get the thumb on the instrument, and they make it hard to
 play inside the black key area. This is why so many of the
 101 videos of the balkan/turkish guys show people with
 really compromised techniques, their 5th fingers sticking
 out all funny, etc. I think I need to switch to the 1000 so
 that I can play the keys with a healthy technique.
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
 #yiv4634642404 #yiv4634642404 --

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.