Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

>Just out of curiosity how many Casio's do you 
>all have?
>

1x  CZ-101
1x Hohner HS/2E (same as Casio VZ-10m but in silver)
1x Casio SK1 with MIDI-interface (self designed)

Ciao
Peter

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Whhhooooaaaaaa....A silver VZ-10m! Wicked.....we all know silver synths
(Like the K5k) sound better than the other colored ones. I wonder if I could
spray paint my VZ-10m silver to get that "sound".....hahahaa. Seriously
though that is neat. Are the Hohners exactly like the Casio's apart from
color? 

Jon

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	From:	Ullrich Peter [SMTP:ullrich@...]
	Sent:	Thursday, May 03, 2001 2:48 AM
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	Subject:	[CZsynth] Casio gear I have

	>Just out of curiosity how many Casio's do you 
	>all have?
	>

	1x  CZ-101
	1x Hohner HS/2E (same as Casio VZ-10m but in silver)
	1x Casio SK1 with MIDI-interface (self designed)

	Ciao
	Peter

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"Furman, Jon W." wrote:

> Whhhooooaaaaaa....A silver VZ-10m! Wicked.....we all know silver
> synths
> (Like the K5k) sound better than the other colored ones.

Be careful here.  Silver synths may sound better only when they
are digital.

In the analog world, the only way to get the right sound is to have a
pitch
black synth with some walnut wood parts, like the Sequential machines...



Max



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LOL..too true!

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	From:	Maxim Potekhin [SMTP:maxim.potekhin@...]
	Sent:	Thursday, May 03, 2001 10:20 AM
	To:	CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
	Subject:	Re: [CZsynth] Casio gear I have

	"Furman, Jon W." wrote:

	> Whhhooooaaaaaa....A silver VZ-10m! Wicked.....we all know silver
	> synths
	> (Like the K5k) sound better than the other colored ones.

	Be careful here.  Silver synths may sound better only when they
	are digital.

	In the analog world, the only way to get the right sound is to have
a
	pitch
	black synth with some walnut wood parts, like the Sequential
machines...



	Max



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Don't yet have any Casio gear whatsoever.  I'm debating whether to get the VZ-10M or the CZ-5000.  I'm a guitar controller player (*NOT* a guitarist) that uses the Roland GR-33 to trigger external synths (primarily FM).  I can get by on the keyboard, but it's just that, "getting by".  Sure it'll be in key, but it'll be simple...

So which Casio has the greatest tonal capabilities?  I'm most interested in crazy digital freakout sounds, effects, and morphing sounds/evolving pads...

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From: Ullrich Peter 
To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com' 
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 2:48 AM
Subject: [CZsynth] Casio gear I have


>Just out of curiosity how many Casio's do you 
>all have?
>

I think what you're looking for is the VZ-8m, it's like the VZ-10m but has a
special guitar mode (assigns a monophonic voice to each of 6 consecutive
MIDI channels) , ½ the polyphony and much a much improved stereo output
scheme. Also I think that the VZ series does the sorts of sounds that you're
looking for better than the CZ.  Plus the VZ-8m can usually be had for <
$200.

Jon 

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	From:	Jason Champion [SMTP:veygoth@...]
	Sent:	Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:14 AM
	To:	CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
	Subject:	[CZsynth] Re:  Casio gear I have

	Don't yet have any Casio gear whatsoever.  I'm debating whether to
get the VZ-10M or the CZ-5000.  I'm a guitar controller player (*NOT* a
guitarist) that uses the Roland GR-33 to trigger external synths (primarily
FM).  I can get by on the keyboard, but it's just that, "getting by".  Sure
it'll be in key, but it'll be simple...

	So which Casio has the greatest tonal capabilities?  I'm most
interested in crazy digital freakout sounds, effects, and morphing
sounds/evolving pads...

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	From: Ullrich Peter 
	To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com' 
	Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 2:48 AM
	Subject: [CZsynth] Casio gear I have


	>Just out of curiosity how many Casio's do you 
	>all have?
	>



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The VZs are closer in sound to the original FM synths that they share a
great deal of technology with, Yamaha's DX family etc.  The VZs for example
have 8 'modules' (operators in FM speak, or oscillators if you like) whereas
the CZ series have only two.  However the CZs are much closer to the
analogues that preceeded them- I think the CZs are more immediately warmer
and organic.  In any case they are different for certain and a VZ10m or VZ8m
certainly isn't a rackmount CZ.  From your description <crazy digital
freakout sounds, effects, and morphing sounds/evolving pads> I'd say you'd
be happier with a VZ but do give a CZ a listen if you can.

jim

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From: Jason Champion [mailto:veygoth@...]
Sent: 03 May 2001 16:14
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Casio gear I have


Don't yet have any Casio gear whatsoever.  I'm debating whether to get the
VZ-10M or the CZ-5000.  I'm a guitar controller player (*NOT* a guitarist)
that uses the Roland GR-33 to trigger external synths (primarily FM).  I can
get by on the keyboard, but it's just that, "getting by".  Sure it'll be in
key, but it'll be simple...

So which Casio has the greatest tonal capabilities?  I'm most interested in
crazy digital freakout sounds, effects, and morphing sounds/evolving pads...

----- Original Message -----
From: Ullrich Peter
To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 2:48 AM
Subject: [CZsynth] Casio gear I have


>Just out of curiosity how many Casio's do you
>all have?
>



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Hello fellow Casio-nauts
I started with a CZ101 way back at the dawn of midi
circa 1985. Went to a 1000 then a 3000 and finally a
VZ10M. I always though the CZ line had really good
sounds for a random button pusher like me. The VZ is
rather cold sounding but have gotten some nice weird
electronic sounds from "random button pushing". Its
output is low and is kinda noisy, but what do you want
for a couple hundred way back when.  ;)
What I'd like to do is get my all my sounds that are
on a C64 disk. (I still have the computer) and  reload
them into Soundiver. One of these days.... But I think
the last time I fired up the C64 and loaded the ed/lib
it wouldn't work right. Magnetic material doesn't last
that long, I suppose. I'd like to chuck it but am
worried that 30-40 years from now (I'll be dead
anyway)
it'll be a rare antique worth billions.
Jon










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Hi Jon,

this is strange since I found the output of my VZ-1 being better then the
one of my CZ-1. Of course it sounds a bit colder and harder then the CZ, but
it can do some warm stuff too. I did some great Pad sounds with that synth.
For the beginning use one of the saw waveforms 4 or 5 create pairs with
identical envelopes detune them just a bit to create phasing and the copy
this pair to the other 3 pairs and detune them to each other. You could also
add LFO etc. but finaly you get a fine pad sound that almost sound like
having a phaser at the output. If you have an external FX you should use the
chorus on the output. But also other fine "warm" sounds are possible...  

Summa


At 14:42 05.05.01 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello fellow Casio-nauts
>I started with a CZ101 way back at the dawn of midi
>circa 1985. Went to a 1000 then a 3000 and finally a
>VZ10M. I always though the CZ line had really good
>sounds for a random button pusher like me. The VZ is
>rather cold sounding but have gotten some nice weird
>electronic sounds from "random button pushing". Its
>output is low and is kinda noisy, but what do you want
>for a couple hundred way back when.  ;)
>What I'd like to do is get my all my sounds that are
>on a C64 disk. (I still have the computer) and  reload
>them into Soundiver. One of these days.... But I think
>the last time I fired up the C64 and loaded the ed/lib
>it wouldn't work right. Magnetic material doesn't last
>that long, I suppose. I'd like to chuck it but am
>worried that 30-40 years from now (I'll be dead
>anyway)
>it'll be a rare antique worth billions.
>Jon
>

			     
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