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CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-01 by Peter Andersson

Hey guys,

Back in the good old days - y'know when hit music was still called disco, when people thought drum machines sounded great and when it was ok for a guy to wear pink and put tons of gel in his hair (and blowdry it!) - back then I was the proud owner of a CZ-101. My first synth! Thanks to it I still have music making as my #1 interest today. Well, the CZ-101 was replaced by a CZ-1000 which was later replaced by Rolands and Yamahas. I've never forgotten my old Casios, though, and it was a very special moment for me the other day when I found and bought a used CZ-5000. It didn't come with a manual and although I actually do remember some details from my old CZs, there are a few things I'm curious about... Can you help?

1. If I program a new patch and save it in one of the user memory slots, say A1 by pressing the Write-A-1 keys, it's stored properly for as long as the machine is switched on. When I switch it off, the user memory banks are cleared. Is this a fault, or do I have to do some something more to persistently save new patches?

2. I'm wondering if there's some midi sysex program for my computer (PC, WinXP) I can use to load and save programs to/from the CZ-5000. If so, can you please send me a link (or mail it to me)?

All the best, 
Peter

Re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-01 by steve_the_composer

Mazel tov on your purchase.  I had my CZ-5000 out a few weeks back--
testing a few things.

> 1. If I program a new patch and save it in one of the user memory 
slots, say A1 by pressing the Write-A-1 keys, it's stored properly 
for as long as the machine is switched on. When I switch it off, the 
user memory banks are cleared. Is this a fault, or do I have to do 
some something more to persistently save new patches?

Check the batteries.  (Underneath, if I remember correctly.  Takes a 
bunch of AAs, I think.)  Make sure contacts are not corroded.

> 2. I'm wondering if there's some midi sysex program for my computer 
(PC, WinXP) I can use to load and save programs to/from the CZ-5000. 
If so, can you please send me a link (or mail it to me)?

Check the archives.  There has been discussion.  Someone here wrote a 
program for saving and loading CZ patches.  Not sure if it works on 
the CZ-5000.

See messages following #1366 regarding program by Daniel Krüger 

Hope this helps.

--Steve

Re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-01 by Peter Andersson

Thanks for your answer Steve. I'm sure you're right about those 
batteries. I found the battery slot underneath the synth (underneath 
duct tape). The original batteries from 1985, I'm afraid. I've got 
some serious cleaning to do... :-(

About sending/receiving sysex. I have been searching though old 
postings. I'm not allowed to download Daniel Krüger's program, 
appearently (http://www.synthomania.de/ = 403 forbidden). Daniel, 
you still here!?

I've tried the "Send SX" program by Bomer. It seems to work fine, 
however I haven't been able to find out how to send sysex *from* the 
CZ-5000. Some old posting said that from a CZ-1 you can press a key 
for "Cartridge/Midi-saveMidi". No such thing on the CZ-5000 as far 
as I can tell. A Cartridge-save, yes, but it only saves to, well, 
cartridge.

Can anyone tell me if there's a magic key combination that makes the 
CZ-5000 send sysex (and if so, which!) or will it only send data on 
sysex-request?

Darn, I miss that manual... There are broken links to a CZ-3000 
manual on the web. Anyone knows how to get a hold of it these days?

  /Peter

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
> Mazel tov on your purchase.  I had my CZ-5000 out a few weeks back-
-
> testing a few things.
> 
> > 1. If I program a new patch and save it in one of the user 
memory 
> slots, say A1 by pressing the Write-A-1 keys, it's stored properly 
> for as long as the machine is switched on. When I switch it off, 
the 
> user memory banks are cleared. Is this a fault, or do I have to do 
> some something more to persistently save new patches?
> 
> Check the batteries.  (Underneath, if I remember correctly.  Takes 
a 
> bunch of AAs, I think.)  Make sure contacts are not corroded.
> 
> > 2. I'm wondering if there's some midi sysex program for my 
computer 
> (PC, WinXP) I can use to load and save programs to/from the CZ-
5000. 
> If so, can you please send me a link (or mail it to me)?
> 
> Check the archives.  There has been discussion.  Someone here 
wrote a 
> program for saving and loading CZ patches.  Not sure if it works 
on 
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> the CZ-5000.
> 
> See messages following #1366 regarding program by Daniel Krüger 
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> --Steve

Re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-02 by steve_the_composer

> Thanks for your answer Steve. I'm sure you're right about those 
> batteries. I found the battery slot . . . 
Sorry to hear you have some serious cleaning to do.  I hope the 
contacts wll still work.

> About sending/receiving sysex. I have been searching though old 
> postings. I'm not allowed to download Daniel Krüger's program, 
> appearently (http://www.synthomania.de/ = 403 forbidden). Daniel, 
> you still here!?

Now that you mentioned it, I think he only had it posted for a little 
while. I will see if I can find my copy.

> . . . I haven't been able to find out how to send sysex *from* the 
> CZ-5000. Some old posting said that from a CZ-1 you can press a key 
> for "Cartridge/Midi-saveMidi". No such thing on the CZ-5000 as far 
> as I can tell. A Cartridge-save, yes, but it only saves to, well, 
> cartridge.

> Can anyone tell me if there's a magic key combination that makes 
the 
> CZ-5000 send sysex (and if so, which!) or will it only send data on 
> sysex-request?

> Darn, I miss that manual... There are broken links to a CZ-3000 
> manual on the web. Anyone knows how to get a hold of it these days?

Hmmm.  It has been a while.  Just got mine out.  BTW, MT is for data 
tape.  With the right cable you can save/load/verify midi data 
to/from/from an audio cassette player (remember those?).  I have 
tapes somewhere as well as the cable.  Do you have the cable?

You are right, you cannot initiate sysex dumps from front panel.  
Looks like you have to use sysex commands. CZ series sysex had a 
flaw.  All sysex messages are required to have F7h - EOX.  On CZ, the 
sysex did handshaking stuuf, but didn't send F7h until the process 
was completed.  (If this is beyond you, don't worry--its not 
critical.)

I don't think I have done patch or sequence dumps since the Commodore 
64.  I wrote some custom software (C-64 assembler) to do stuff with 
the sequencer memory, but seem to have gotten rid of all my notes 
about 6-10 months ago. 

I have manuals, but no time (or patience) to scan.  I saw the Casio 
Guidebook for MIDI (Nov. 1985) on line a year or two ago, but didn't 
find it just now.  That has info on CZ sysex format (handshaking, 
etc.) if you--or anyone--wanted to write a program. 

I seem to recall that Cakewalk software had dump request macros.  I 
will test this this afternoon.

Steve

Re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-02 by steve_the_composer

> Can anyone tell me if there's a magic key combination that makes 
the 
> CZ-5000 send sysex (and if so, which!) or will it only send data on 
> sysex-request?

Good news, I hope.  With old version of cakewalk professional, I was 
able to create dump request macros to get the CZ-5000 to send data.  
I tried a patch dump request and a sequencer dump request.  From a 
cursory glance of the data it looks like I got both patch and 
sequencer data.  The next question is how to get the data from the 
software to the CZ-5000 if at all possible.

Not sure if I will have time for further testing this afternoon.

If you have a sequencer that can send and receive sysex, try sending:

F0 44 00 00 7N 10 dd 7N 31 F7

where N = basic channel [0 at power up = channel 1]
and dd = memory bank as follows:

00 - 1F  =  preset bank A-1 to D-8
20 - 3F  =  memory bank A-1 to D-8
60       = sound area [current patch]

I received back from the CZ what looks like the following:

F0 44 00 00 70 30     [data header]
[256 bytes of data]
F7 [EOX]

Further testing (as long as I've got machine out):

(1) I sent request as follows:

F0 44 00 00 70 10 60 70 31 F7 to request current patch [sound area].

(2) The message I received was:

F0 44 00 00 70 30 [data] F7

(3) By hand, I edited it to:

F0 44 00 00 70 20 60 [data] F7

to put the data back into the sound area.

Works for memory banks too!

Now if I can just find my Commodore 128 and the software to convert 
CBM-DOS files to MS-DOS files, I might be able to salavage all my old 
CZ patches!!!!!

Hope this helps.

--Dr. Steve

re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-02 by Larry Troth

Hey guys,

>Back in the good old days -...- back then I was the proud owner of a
CZ-101. My first synth!
>Thanks to it I still have music making as my #1 interest today. Well, the
CZ-101 was replaced
>by a CZ-1000 which was later replaced by Roland's and Yamahas.

You should have done what some of us did, keep your CZ and just add others.
(I now have Casio, Roland, Yamaha, Kurzweil, Ensoniq, Korg, Kawai, Oberheim,
and Akai.  Each has it's own unique sound, and together they are GREAT!)

>1. If I program a new patch and save it in one of the user memory slots,
say A1 by pressing
>the Write-A-1 keys, it's stored properly for as long as the machine is
switched on. When I
>switch it off, the user memory banks are cleared. Is this a fault, or do I
have to do some
>something more to persistently save new patches?

I believe that the CZ's from the 1000 through the 1 all have an internal
battery that should probably be replaced.

>2. I'm wondering if there's some midi sysex program for my computer (PC,
WinXP) I can use to
>load and save programs to/from the CZ-5000. If so, can you please send me a
link (or mail it
>to me)?

I have had good luck with Midi Quest from SoundQuest (www.squest.com).  It
will handle almost anything you can get that has MIDI, and you can define
your own sysex if you have something that they do not support!

Good Luck Peter,
Larry

Re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-02 by Peter Andersson

Thanks a million Steve! This is great and very useful info! Bomer's 
SendSX program also seems to have the feature where I can send sysex 
requests and receive responses (and hopefully also save that data to 
file). 

Thanks to you too, Larry. Midi Quest might well be worth looking 
into... later...

See, I just ran out of luck. My CZ has gone completely nuts. When I 
switch it on it starts spewing midi data (seems to be pitch bend 
messages or something), the outs are crackling and it reboots every 
2-5 secs. Man, I can tell it's Halloween! Before I can even go on 
playing with the sysex stuff, I need to get the machine repaired. 
Can you believe it? I haven't even had it for a week. What's that 
word I'm looking for!? ...

Anyway, before this is over, I WILL have a functional CZ synth in my 
studio and I WILL be able to send/receive program data to/from it. 
That's for sure. Thanks again guys, I'll let you know what happens 
(and probably bother you with more Qs ;-).

Oh, and about that tape interface. Let's just say it's not high 
priority at the moment. ;-)

  Peter

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
> > Can anyone tell me if there's a magic key combination that makes 
> the 
> > CZ-5000 send sysex (and if so, which!) or will it only send data 
on 
> > sysex-request?
> 
> Good news, I hope.  With old version of cakewalk professional, I 
was 
> able to create dump request macros to get the CZ-5000 to send 
data.  
> I tried a patch dump request and a sequencer dump request.  From a 
> cursory glance of the data it looks like I got both patch and 
> sequencer data.  The next question is how to get the data from the 
> software to the CZ-5000 if at all possible.
> 
> Not sure if I will have time for further testing this afternoon.
> 
> If you have a sequencer that can send and receive sysex, try 
sending:
> 
> F0 44 00 00 7N 10 dd 7N 31 F7
> 
> where N = basic channel [0 at power up = channel 1]
> and dd = memory bank as follows:
> 
> 00 - 1F  =  preset bank A-1 to D-8
> 20 - 3F  =  memory bank A-1 to D-8
> 60       = sound area [current patch]
> 
> I received back from the CZ what looks like the following:
> 
> F0 44 00 00 70 30     [data header]
> [256 bytes of data]
> F7 [EOX]
> 
> Further testing (as long as I've got machine out):
> 
> (1) I sent request as follows:
> 
> F0 44 00 00 70 10 60 70 31 F7 to request current patch [sound 
area].
> 
> (2) The message I received was:
> 
> F0 44 00 00 70 30 [data] F7
> 
> (3) By hand, I edited it to:
> 
> F0 44 00 00 70 20 60 [data] F7
> 
> to put the data back into the sound area.
> 
> Works for memory banks too!
> 
> Now if I can just find my Commodore 128 and the software to 
convert 
> CBM-DOS files to MS-DOS files, I might be able to salavage all my 
old 
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> CZ patches!!!!!
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> --Dr. Steve

Re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-03 by steve_the_composer

> Thanks a million Steve! This is great and very useful info! Bomer's 
> SendSX program also seems to have the feature where I can send
> sysex requests and receive responses (and hopefully also save that
> data to file). 

Glad to hear; hope it works.

Before puting CZ away this AM, I tried same procedure with sequence 
data.  I was able to get the sequence out via sysex reques 2, but 
can't get it back in.  I keep getting a "MIDI DATA FULL!" error when 
I try to send the data back to the CZ.

If you want to try, here's the info:

Send Request 2:

Computer:  F0 44 00 00 7N 14 61

CZ responds: F0 44 00 00 7N 30
Computer ACK:  7N 31

CZ: [256 bytes sequence data] 7N 32
Computer:  7N 31
-----repeats for length of data

CZ: [256 bytes sequence data] 7N 32 F7
Computer : F7

============================================

Receive Request 2:

Computer:  F0 44 00 00 7N 24 61
CZ responds: F0 44 00 00 7N 30

Computer: [256 bytes sequence data] 7N 32
CZ ACK: 7N 30
-----repeats for length of data

Computer: [256 bytes sequence data] 7N 32 F7
CZ: 7N 30 F7

============================================

Hope this helps.
Steve

Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-04 by Simon Wotton

hello!

i was in town today - saw a CZ5000

Q1: are they rare and whatsit worth?
Q2: on first sight looked like 2DCOs - and FM type of synthesis - right??
Q3: is it a good buy (soundwise) - already have a DX7 and a TX802 and thought the presets were quite similar...???


thanx in advance


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Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-04 by Simon Beck

Q1a: Is it rare? Not particularly.

Q1b: What's it worth? Well, I bought a top-of-the-range CZ-1 for £75 a few years ago from Loot, and that's the same beast minus the step-time sequencer but with velocity and after-touch and a few more goodies. I suspect that anything under £200 is probably worth paying, if you're SURE it's what you want.

Q2: 2 DCOs? Yes and no. Essentially the CZ range share the following architecture. A single DCO produces either one or a combination of two out of six static waveforms (if two are chosen they alternate every cycle). The waveforms can be modified over time using the DCW which broadly simulates the effect of an analogue low-pass filter. Finally the output is fed through a DCA for amplitude modulation. The DCO pitch, DCW waveshape and DCA amplitude each have their own 8-step envelope, and each step has its own rate and final level. Any one step (or none) can be assigned as the sustain phase and the final release (or "end") step can also be assigned.

Now, here's the tricky bit. Each voice of the CZ synth has TWO DCO-DCW-DCA chains, side-by-side. And they can either be different (each having a different sound), the same (with optional detuning) or independent (doubling the effective polyphony of the synth, but thinning the sound). So the CZ-101 is 4-or-8-voice polyphonic, while the CZ-5000 is 8-or-16-voice polyphonic. When using two chains per voice, ring-modulation and noise modulation can also be used. There is a single LFO which can ONLY be applied globally to all DCOs and which only modulates pitch.

Q3: No, it ISN'T an FM synth - and it DOES sound different - but it can do digital and (unlike the Yamahas) analogue-ish sounds and is a good complement or foil for an existing FM setup.
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  Subject: Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs


  hello!

  i was in town today - saw a CZ5000

  Q1: are they rare and whatsit worth?
  Q2: on first sight looked like 2DCOs - and FM type of synthesis - right??
  Q3: is it a good buy (soundwise) - already have a DX7 and a TX802 and thought the presets were quite similar...???


  thanx in advance


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Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-04 by Summa

It's a Phase Modulation Synth, a synthesis method used in Yamahas FM synths too, 
but the implementation is different so it complements with Yamaha FM synths very 
well. In 1987 I used my CZ-1 it together with a TX81z...

On 4 Nov 2003 at 19:00, Simon Beck wrote:
> 
> Q3: No, it ISN'T an FM synth - and it DOES sound different - but it
> can do digital and (unlike the Yamahas) analogue-ish sounds and is a
> good complement or foil for an existing FM setup.

-- 

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Re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-05 by Peter Andersson

So I got my CZ-5k back up and running again. (I opened it up, cleaned 
it, tightened screws, pushed and pulled on various connections, etc. 
Then everything was suddenly back to normal again. Still don't know 
what actually caused the problems. Spooky.)

Now I've also tried some sysex communication based on your examples, 
Steve, and it works like a charm! Great! Now I'm able to back up new 
patches on the computer AND send them back to the CZ as well. Just 
what I need. (I wasn't going to spend much time programming the synth 
until I had these options).

I truly appreciate the help! I was lost without it. Cheers fellas!

  Peter


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
> > Can anyone tell me if there's a magic key combination that makes 
> the 
> > CZ-5000 send sysex (and if so, which!) or will it only send data 
on 
> > sysex-request?
> 
> Good news, I hope.  With old version of cakewalk professional, I 
was 
> able to create dump request macros to get the CZ-5000 to send 
data.  
> I tried a patch dump request and a sequencer dump request.  From a 
> cursory glance of the data it looks like I got both patch and 
> sequencer data.  The next question is how to get the data from the 
> software to the CZ-5000 if at all possible.
> 
> Not sure if I will have time for further testing this afternoon.
> 
> If you have a sequencer that can send and receive sysex, try 
sending:
> 
> F0 44 00 00 7N 10 dd 7N 31 F7
> 
> where N = basic channel [0 at power up = channel 1]
> and dd = memory bank as follows:
> 
> 00 - 1F  =  preset bank A-1 to D-8
> 20 - 3F  =  memory bank A-1 to D-8
> 60       = sound area [current patch]
> 
> I received back from the CZ what looks like the following:
> 
> F0 44 00 00 70 30     [data header]
> [256 bytes of data]
> F7 [EOX]
> 
> Further testing (as long as I've got machine out):
> 
> (1) I sent request as follows:
> 
> F0 44 00 00 70 10 60 70 31 F7 to request current patch [sound area].
> 
> (2) The message I received was:
> 
> F0 44 00 00 70 30 [data] F7
> 
> (3) By hand, I edited it to:
> 
> F0 44 00 00 70 20 60 [data] F7
> 
> to put the data back into the sound area.
> 
> Works for memory banks too!
> 
> Now if I can just find my Commodore 128 and the software to convert 
> CBM-DOS files to MS-DOS files, I might be able to salavage all my 
old 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> CZ patches!!!!!
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> --Dr. Steve

Re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-05 by steve_the_composer

> So I got my CZ-5k back up and running again. . . .
Glad to hear it!!!

I have been motivated, too (by thinkng about the CZ).  A couple of 
years ago I digitized some personal CZ audio tapes of tunes and 
doodles.  My intent was to revisit the material and do stuff with 
it.  Towards that end, I have just started separating the tracks and 
buring them (as individual files) to CD-R.  Perhaps I might put 
together an MP3 of excerpts.  Then maybe I can find the original 
patches, load them into the CZ (from data tape--if I can find a 
portable cassette player), and create SYX patch dumps to share.

I created a special blubbery bass and some neat spacey/ethereal 
patches. (I may have a txt file that lists the settings for two 
patches.)

I am finding that the CZ has a "warmth" to it.  But that may just be 
sentimentality.  Thanks for bringing back the memories!

Dr. Steve

Re: CZ-5000, a story and a couple of Qs

2003-11-05 by Peter Andersson

I'd be very interested in hearing those mp3s, as well as trying out 
any patches you'd care to share. Hearing other peoples' sounds always 
broaden my view of what my synth is capable of. (And norrow the view 
of what I'm capable of myself...). Usually people manage to come up 
very different - and better - sounds than the original presets. This 
must be especially true for the CZ synths. The presets really don't 
do the synths justice.

About that neat spacey/ethereal sound of yours: Do find that text 
file! :-)

I used to write settings down for the patches I created with my CZ-
101 and CZ-1000 back in the mid 80's. I wonder if I still have those 
notes. I remember I came up with some really nice organ and bass 
patches, for example.

I found some CZ-101 and CZ-1000 patches (syx dumps) on the web 
yesterday and tried loading some of them to the CZ-5000. My CZ 
accepted them, by there was no sound. Should the patches be 
compatible or do the syx sound data formats differ?

I believe I also hear the warmth of the CZ that you mention, 
particularly well when I experiment with organ like sounds. Then 
again, I'm also a sentimental type of guy. :-)

  Peter


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
> > So I got my CZ-5k back up and running again. . . .
> Glad to hear it!!!
> 
> I have been motivated, too (by thinkng about the CZ).  A couple of 
> years ago I digitized some personal CZ audio tapes of tunes and 
> doodles.  My intent was to revisit the material and do stuff with 
> it.  Towards that end, I have just started separating the tracks 
and 
> buring them (as individual files) to CD-R.  Perhaps I might put 
> together an MP3 of excerpts.  Then maybe I can find the original 
> patches, load them into the CZ (from data tape--if I can find a 
> portable cassette player), and create SYX patch dumps to share.
> 
> I created a special blubbery bass and some neat spacey/ethereal 
> patches. (I may have a txt file that lists the settings for two 
> patches.)
> 
> I am finding that the CZ has a "warmth" to it.  But that may just 
be 
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> sentimentality.  Thanks for bringing back the memories!
> 
> Dr. Steve

CZ patches from Dr. Steve

2003-11-06 by steve_the_composer

> I'd be very interested in hearing those mp3s, as well as trying out 
> any patches you'd care to share.

I will work on some MP3 samples of tunes using CZ.  I hope the 
compression doesn't do too much damage to the sounds.

> About that neat spacey/ethereal sound of yours: Do find that text 
> file! :-)

Found it.  See below [from the mid to late 1980s].

> I found some CZ-101 and CZ-1000 patches (syx dumps) on the web 
> yesterday and tried loading some of them to the CZ-5000. My CZ 
> accepted them, by there was no sound. Should the patches be 
> compatible or do the syx sound data formats differ?

The format should be identical.  CZ-1 differs slightly.  Create a 
folder in the files section and place the syx data there.  Next week, 
I should have time to look at them.

--Steve

==================================================================
From vol. 1 no. 1 of the SMUG Newsletter [Syrause Midi User's Group]
==================================================================
Here are two of my favorite homemade patches for the CZ fused into 
one memory location.  I recommend saving this in line select mode 2.  
This facilitates the 16-oscillator keysplit configuration (described 
below).  Then use the line select switch to access bass1.1.  (Or save 
them as two separate patches.)

DR. STEVE CZ PATCH - DRS001<bass//rumble  (Two Patches For the Price 
of One!!)
Vibrato:   4   00   50   07     Ring/Noise:  optional/off
Octave:  -1    Detune:   +   00   00   03     

DRS001<walking bass1.1                  DRS001<spacey rumble [1 osc.]
line select 1 or 1+1'                   line select 2
DCO1:  Waveform:  1  0                  DCO2:  Waveform:  3  1
   Step  1                                 Step  1   2   3   4
   Rate  50                                Rate  81  03  00  50
  Level  00                               Level  66  67  66  00
         end                                     sus         end

DCW1:  Key follow: 0                    DCW2:  Key follow: 8
   Step  1   2   3   4   5                 Step  1   2   3
   Rate  99  50  50  50  50                Rate  66  20  37
  Level  99  00  00  75  00               Level  70  44  00
                 sus     end                         sus end

DCA1:  Key follow: 0                    DCA2:  Key follow: 3
   Step  1   2   3   4                     Step  1   2   3   4
   Rate  96  40  50  50                    Rate  90  30  25  50
  Level  99  58  99  00                   Level  83  99  02  00
         sus         end                         sus         end

Due to space limitations, I will explain several performance options 
in the next issue.  For the time being, try this set up for the CZ-
3000, CZ-5000, and CZ-1 [or use CZ-101 for 1/2 of the following].

Set both halves of a key split to this patch--line select mode 2.  
This gives 8 oscillators per half [CZ-3000/CZ-5000].  On the lower 
half, rapidly repeat an octave bass pattern, D--D for example.  On 
the upper half (especially the top octave), rapidly and repeatedly 
arpeggiate (downward) a triad, A--F--D for example.

Next month, I'll explain more about this technique for creating an 
ominous or Gregorian-chant-space effect (also great for simulating 
airplanes on a runway).  For single notes in the right-hand be sure 
to strike each note repeatedly.  This works particularly well with 
modal minor melodies.

With line 1 or 1+1', for now just try a walking bass or a boogie bass 
pattern.  The upper registers also produce some usable effects.  
Enjoy!

==================================================================
From vol. 1 no. 2 of the SMUG Newsletter [Syrause Midi User's Group]
==================================================================
In the last issue of the SMUG newsletter, I offered two CZ patches, 
(1) walking bass1.1 and (2) spacey rumble, with brief explanations of 
some performance options.  In this issue, I have a few additional 
points about the patches plus a a preview of the MIDI subboard 
currently on Gary's BBS.

If you've entered the CZ patches into your synth, you may have 
noticed a slight swelling on the walking bass after the key is 
released.  This is deliberate!  Though it may sound a little odd for 
single notes, when played with moving bass patterns, the swelling 
takes place underneath the sound of subsequent notes.  It is this 
very quality that helps to give a listener the psychological 
perception of a real bass.  For a sequencer-based operation, you may 
want the bass part assigned to two monophonic channels with the notes 
being altered between channels.

The spacey rumble patch demonstrates a couple of dimensions of sound 
synthesis:  (1) how to use a one-oscillator patch to create special 
effects (thereby illustrating the CZ synth's 16-note capability) and 
(2) how to use frequency shifts to create a chorus effect.  The slow 
envelope on the DCO takes effect as the same notes (either individual 
notes or broken chords) are struck and then released.  With the 
spacey rumble, the release time is rather long.  The patch has been 
deliberately constructed so that the decay will be hastened by simply 
depressing then releasing the sustain pedal (either real time or 
through a MIDI sequence).  Keep in mind that the spacey rumble is 
really designed as a polyphonic performance patch, since the 16-note 
capability is only available in polyphonic mode.  Fortunately, it 
works both from the resident keyboard as well as through MIDI.
==================================================================

Re: CZ patches from Dr. Steve

2003-11-09 by Peter Andersson

Steve,
 
> I will work on some MP3 samples of tunes using CZ.  I hope the 
> compression doesn't do too much damage to the sounds.

Keep us posted. Really looking forward to hearing them! 

> > About that neat spacey/ethereal sound of yours: Do find that 
text 
> > file! :-)
> 
> Found it.  See below [from the mid to late 1980s].

Great, thanks! I didn't have time to program them in and try them 
out yet, but I definitely will soon. 

> The format should be identical.  CZ-1 differs slightly.  Create a 
> folder in the files section and place the syx data there.  Next 
week, 
> I should have time to look at them.

Thanks for offering your help. I'm alright, though. I just played 
some more with it and now it works fine! Last time I tried I had 
probably already managed to put the CZ (or maybe the MIDI-i/f) in a 
weird state by first doing all kinds of send/rcv-sysex-experiments. 
I should of course have rebooted the equipment and tried again, but 
I never did. Sorry for bothering you with it instead.

 Peter

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