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CZ-101/1000 = top dollar CZ-1 = peanuts - WHY?

CZ-101/1000 = top dollar CZ-1 = peanuts - WHY?

2005-06-01 by yazzofever

Take ebay for instance-I don't get it!

Why does the cz-1000's and the 101's go for double what cz-1 sell for.  
Why does this happen?  Does everybody else know something about these 
boards that I don't? 

The cz-1 is a better synth-more stuff, more everything, even more 
keys.  Why don't they seem to sell as well?

DOes anyone else notice this...'

micah

RE: [CZsynth] CZ-101/1000 = top dollar CZ-1 = peanuts - WHY?

2005-06-01 by Scott Nordlund

>Why does the cz-1000's and the 101's go for double what cz-1 sell for.
>Why does this happen?  Does everybody else know something about these
>boards that I don't?
>
>The cz-1 is a better synth-more stuff, more everything, even more
>keys.  Why don't they seem to sell as well?

It's probably because the CZ-1 is big and heavy in comparison to the 101 and 
1000, sometimes people value something they can stick into a corner when 
they don't need it.

It's been a while since I checked the prices but I seem to remember the 
DX100 similarly fetching more than it should.

Re: CZ-101/1000 = top dollar CZ-1 = peanuts - WHY?

2005-06-01 by midcomsys

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@h...> wrote:
> >Why does the cz-1000's and the 101's go for double what cz-1 sell 
for.
> >Why does this happen?  Does everybody else know something about these
> >boards that I don't?
> >
> >The cz-1 is a better synth-more stuff, more everything, even more
> >keys.  Why don't they seem to sell as well?
> 
> It's probably because the CZ-1 is big and heavy in comparison to the 
101 and 
> 1000, sometimes people value something they can stick into a corner 
when 
> they don't need it.
> 
> It's been a while since I checked the prices but I seem to remember 
the 
> DX100 similarly fetching more than it should.

That's probably correct. Most people have only used it's little bro's 
without the additional features the CZ-1 offers. Anyhow, studios 
nowadays consist of a computer and a desk. CZ-1's are big and costly to 
post and take up a lot of room. Unless you are prepared to use its 
superior features, what's the point. If you want bog standard PD/FM 
sounds a controller plus sizer which fits on your computer desk the 
CZ101, 1000 are perfect. If your a CZ-1 owner then you'll know it's 
more fool them! I've seen CZ3000/5000 units go for double the CZ-1's 
advertised. I still think it's the best Casio ever made to date. Even 
better than the VZ range and I've got one of those too. Let's face it 
they're so rare and so little was ever published about them that unless 
you've used one you'll not know what your missing.

Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ-101/1000 = top dollar CZ-1 = peanuts - WHY?

2005-06-01 by M.J.B.

Let's face it 
> they're so rare and so little was ever
> published about them that unless 
> you've used one you'll not know what your
> missing.


Amen brother.  The CZ-1 is one, if not my
favorite synth I have ever owned.

mb



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SV: RE: [CZsynth] CZ-101/1000 = top dollar CZ-1 = peanuts - WHY?

2005-06-01 by KW

i belive it got to do with the postage cost. they're almost identical in sound generation so ppl do not seem to bother that much about backlite screen, velocity sensitive keys, chorus and some other things, the main thing with CZ's is the sound-engine i think.
cannot remeber seen any CZ-1 cheaper than 101 or 1000 though!


Scott Nordlund <gsn10@...> skrev:
>Why does the cz-1000's and the 101's go for double what cz-1 sell for.
>Why does this happen?  Does everybody else know something about these
>boards that I don't?
>
>The cz-1 is a better synth-more stuff, more everything, even more
>keys.  Why don't they seem to sell as well?

It's probably because the CZ-1 is big and heavy in comparison to the 101 and 
1000, sometimes people value something they can stick into a corner when 
they don't need it.

It's been a while since I checked the prices but I seem to remember the 
DX100 similarly fetching more than it should.




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Re: SV: RE: [CZsynth] CZ-101/1000 = top dollar CZ-1 = peanuts - WHY?

2005-06-22 by P........

It propably has something to do with popularity - the CZ101/1000 is 
more popular than the other CZs, but that's just my theory. The 
portability of the CZ101 may play a role too since the CZ 1000 is 
still bigger than the 101. It's also said that the 101 has more 
punch to it's sound. 

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, KW <memtechlist@y...> wrote:
> i belive it got to do with the postage cost. they're almost 
identical in sound generation so ppl do not seem to bother that much 
about backlite screen, velocity sensitive keys, chorus and some 
other things, the main thing with CZ's is the sound-engine i think.
> cannot remeber seen any CZ-1 cheaper than 101 or 1000 though!
> 
> 
> Scott Nordlund <gsn10@h...> skrev:
> >Why does the cz-1000's and the 101's go for double what cz-1 sell 
for.
> >Why does this happen?  Does everybody else know something about 
these
> >boards that I don't?
> >
> >The cz-1 is a better synth-more stuff, more everything, even more
> >keys.  Why don't they seem to sell as well?
> 
> It's probably because the CZ-1 is big and heavy in comparison to 
the 101 and 
> 1000, sometimes people value something they can stick into a 
corner when 
> they don't need it.
> 
> It's been a while since I checked the prices but I seem to 
remember the 
> DX100 similarly fetching more than it should.
> 
> 
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Re: SV: RE: [CZsynth] CZ-101/1000 = top dollar CZ-1 = peanuts - WHY?

2005-06-22 by Simon Beck

The main influence on the price of CZ-series synths is probably the name and reputation of the 101 - it was the first in the series (like Yamaha's DX-7) and immediately found use on well-known recordings by name bands. So "...how did so-and-so get that bass sound?" "It was a Casio CZ-101." "Must get one then!" without necessarily knowing that there are more powerful versions capable of producing the same sounds. The 101 is the one that people have heard of, so it's the one that folk want unless they're Casio freaks or have done their research. In a way it's good - it keeps the prices of the big ones low! And who's heard of the immensely powerful Yamaha DX-5 or DX-1? Thought not...

Simon Beck
London, UK
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  It propably has something to do with popularity - the CZ101/1000 is 
  more popular than the other CZs, but that's just my theory. The 
  portability of the CZ101 may play a role too since the CZ 1000 is 
  still bigger than the 101. It's also said that the 101 has more 
  punch to it's sound. 

  --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, KW <memtechlist@y...> wrote:
  > i belive it got to do with the postage cost. they're almost 
  identical in sound generation so ppl do not seem to bother that much 
  about backlite screen, velocity sensitive keys, chorus and some 
  other things, the main thing with CZ's is the sound-engine i think.
  > cannot remeber seen any CZ-1 cheaper than 101 or 1000 though!
  > 
  > 
  > Scott Nordlund <gsn10@h...> skrev:
  > >Why does the cz-1000's and the 101's go for double what cz-1 sell 
  for.
  > >Why does this happen?  Does everybody else know something about 
  these
  > >boards that I don't?
  > >
  > >The cz-1 is a better synth-more stuff, more everything, even more
  > >keys.  Why don't they seem to sell as well?
  > 
  > It's probably because the CZ-1 is big and heavy in comparison to 
  the 101 and 
  > 1000, sometimes people value something they can stick into a 
  corner when 
  > they don't need it.
  > 
  > It's been a while since I checked the prices but I seem to 
  remember the 
  > DX100 similarly fetching more than it should.
  > 
  > 
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Re: SV: RE: [CZsynth] CZ-101/1000 = top dollar CZ-1 = peanuts - WHY?

2005-06-22 by M.J.B.

Great point Simon,

Your analogy about the dx-7/dx-1 is right on,
except for the fact that the dx-1 is about as big
as a "mini" and cost about the same :), that
might be some reasons for a couple of strikes
against it....

micah

--- Simon Beck <simon@...> wrote:
> the immensely powerful Yamaha DX-5 or DX-1?
> Thought not...



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