Re: [CZsynth] Digest Number 799
2005-08-26 by onephatcat@earthlink.net
it was cheaper than anything else & the multitibrality sounded like a dream come true for a young kid like me. I think i payed $400 in 85 or 86. I wish I had a working one now.
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From: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Subj: [CZsynth] Digest Number 799
Date: Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:38 am
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There are 4 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. okay so it isn't fm but hey...why did you or anyone else buy the CZ's?
From: "M.J.B." <yazzofever@...>
2. Re: okay so it isn't fm but hey...why did you or anyone else buy the CZ's?
From: "Rocky Rodenbach" <yooper@...>
3. Re: okay so it isn't fm but hey...why did you or anyone else buy the CZ's?
From: "Summa" <flotorian@...>
4. RE: okay so it isn't fm but hey...why did you or anyone else buy the C
From: "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@...>
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:31:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: "M.J.B." <yazzofever@...>
Subject: okay so it isn't fm but hey...why did you or anyone else buy the CZ's?
okay steve, scott, summa and rocky...
so it's not a dx, but why did people buy the
cz101 back in 1984, even more then that in '86
with the "1."
Who was Casio targeting? Was is just people who
couldn't program or who didn't have enough $?
And if I hadn't of been 6 in 1984, and let's say
I would have had the money to buy a DX7, were
there people out there who actually bought the
casio cz series over the dx series? Why? Did
you?
micah
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:44:11 -0400
From: "Rocky Rodenbach" <yooper@...>
Subject: Re: okay so it isn't fm but hey...why did you or anyone else buy the CZ's?
----- Original Message -----
From: "M.J.B." <yazzofever@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:31 PM
Subject: [CZsynth] okay so it isn't fm but hey...why did you or anyone else
buy the CZ's?
> okay steve, scott, summa and rocky...
>
> so it's not a dx, but why did people buy the
> cz101 back in 1984, even more then that in '86
> with the "1."
>
> Who was Casio targeting? Was is just people who
> couldn't program or who didn't have enough $?
>
> And if I hadn't of been 6 in 1984, and let's say
> I would have had the money to buy a DX7, were
> there people out there who actually bought the
> casio cz series over the dx series? Why? Did
> you?
>
>
> micah
Actually, I would think most people bought the CZ101 over the CZ1000 because
of the price. The CZ101 had the same architecture the CZ1000 had, but it
had mini keys vs. the full sized keys the CZ1000 offered.
I think Casio was targeting the low end user on a limited budget yet
still wanted a synth that had a lot of features. I don't think that lack of
programming came in to that much, the CZ only came with 16 preset sounds, so
you still have the learn the in's and out's if you want to expand the range
of what was there.
I really don't know the percentage of people who would favor the CZ over
the DX7. I would have to strongly assume that the serious studio musicians
and the like would choose the DX7 over it's velocity and pressure sensitive
keys, mod wheel, breath controller, 16 note polyphony, etc. Plus, the DX7
is built like a tank, a very good keyboard to take on the road. Like I
mentioned, I still like my CZ even through it no longer works, I need to
find one on Ebay one of these days.
Rocky
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:26:26 +0200
From: "Summa" <flotorian@...>
Subject: Re: okay so it isn't fm but hey...why did you or anyone else buy the CZ's?
Hi,
On 24 Aug 2005 at 13:31, M.J.B. wrote:
> okay steve, scott, summa and rocky...
>
> so it's not a dx, but why did people buy the
> cz101 back in 1984, even more then that in '86
> with the "1."
Probably since it was more affordable than a DX7, multitimbral, easier to
programm...
> Who was Casio targeting? Was is just people who
> couldn't program or who didn't have enough $?
Well, soundprogramming with the DX7 isn't easy, at my current state of experience
it don't make a difference if it's a DX7 or CZ-1 but for a beginner FM Synthesis
has a steep learning curve...
Other than that even a CZ can do quite some sounds a DX7 isn't able to do and of
course vice versa. Also the sound character is different...
> And if I hadn't of been 6 in 1984, and let's say
> I would have had the money to buy a DX7, were
> there people out there who actually bought the
> casio cz series over the dx series? Why? Did
> you?
I was targeting a DX7 at that time, but it was a good thing I wasn't able to
afford one. Since I bought a TX81z a year after the CZ-1 and had a hard time
getting into the programming...
...Summa
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:15:13 -0400
From: "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@...>
Subject: RE: okay so it isn't fm but hey...why did you or anyone else buy the C
>so it's not a dx, but why did people buy the
>cz101 back in 1984, even more then that in '86
>with the "1."
Well it's not competition for the DX7, but it's still got some unique and
interesting sounds. I think it's best to not try emulating synths with
other synths...the CZ maybe isn't the best for DX sounds, but try to get a
Prophet 5 patch on a DX7...
>Who was Casio targeting? Was is just people who
>couldn't program or who didn't have enough $?
That's a good question to ask with a lot of Casio products- does anyone
really need a boombox/keyboard combo, or a calculator with vibrato?
>And if I hadn't of been 6 in 1984, and let's say
>I would have had the money to buy a DX7, were
>there people out there who actually bought the
>casio cz series over the dx series? Why? Did
>you?
I might have gone for both.
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