Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Hello again, my music laptop has died on me, So for the moment, I've
resolved to getting a pure old school hardware setup working and
finally get my live italo band out on the road! I figured out how to
use an old friend's alesis mmt, synced it up to my korg drum machine
and then connected it my new (to me) casio cz-1000.

I got a few basic patterns going and it sounded really splendid (there
is such visceral pleasure in syncing hardware, isn't there?).. but now
I'm a little stuck.

My problem:

I put the CZ into `Solo' Mode, select Midi channel 1 on the left, and
then skip across to the right and select the other sounds by changing
the `vo' setting.....(note the `instruments' names below are just for
illustration)

Thus it looks Something like this

CH=01 VO=01 `bass'
CH=01 VO=02 `guitar'
CH=01 VO=03 `piano'
CH-01 VO=04 `choir'

So far so good, but when push on the VO channel to change the patch of
guitar, it seems to `follow' it and changes the `bass' sound to the
`guitar'.

When you pull it back down to the original channel (01), it goes back
to the bass. The effect is that it makes it really hard to get a good
understanding of what sounds go best with eachother!

The sequencer is an alesis mmt8 and I'm sending out on tracks 1,2,3,4.

Is this standard behaviour for a cz-1000? I don't expect it to run
like a pro sound module or anything but I was really hoping it could
run 4 seperate monophonic parts which could be changed/altered
independently of each other.

Can anyone help? I will reward you with my three of my favourite
italo/chip tunes!

Cheers :)

and thanks to everyone who advised me on the dump/sysex thing, am 
gonna try it when my laptop's back up and running

I am more familiar with the CZ-3000/CZ-5000/CZ-1 architecture than 
the CZ-101/CZ-1000, and I haven't done much with it in a while, but 
if its the same, you want mono mode, not solo mode. But maybe the 
101/1000 is different--the 3000/5000/1 don't have the CH/VO 
structure. 

Check out the docs in the Files section.

Hope this helps.
 
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "dreamend" <dreamend@...> wrote:
>
> Hello again, my music laptop has died on me, So for the moment, I've
> resolved to getting a pure old school hardware setup working and
> finally get my live italo band out on the road! I figured out how to
> use an old friend's alesis mmt, synced it up to my korg drum machine
> and then connected it my new (to me) casio cz-1000.
> 
> I got a few basic patterns going and it sounded really splendid 
(there
> is such visceral pleasure in syncing hardware, isn't there?).. but 
now
> I'm a little stuck.
> 
> My problem:
> 
> I put the CZ into `Solo' Mode, select Midi channel 1 on the left, 
and
> then skip across to the right and select the other sounds by 
changing
> the `vo' setting.....(note the `instruments' names below are just 
for
> illustration)
> 
> Thus it looks Something like this
> 
> CH=01 VO=01 `bass'
> CH=01 VO=02 `guitar'
> CH=01 VO=03 `piano'
> CH-01 VO=04 `choir'
> 
> So far so good, but when push on the VO channel to change the patch 
of
> guitar, it seems to `follow' it and changes the `bass' sound to the
> `guitar'.
> 
> When you pull it back down to the original channel (01), it goes 
back
> to the bass. The effect is that it makes it really hard to get a 
good
> understanding of what sounds go best with eachother!
> 
> The sequencer is an alesis mmt8 and I'm sending out on tracks 
1,2,3,4.

> 
> Is this standard behaviour for a cz-1000? I don't expect it to run
> like a pro sound module or anything but I was really hoping it could
> run 4 seperate monophonic parts which could be changed/altered
> independently of each other.
> 
> Can anyone help? I will reward you with my three of my favourite
> italo/chip tunes!
> 
> Cheers :)
> 
> and thanks to everyone who advised me on the dump/sysex thing, am 
> gonna try it when my laptop's back up and running
>

you need to assign a separate midi channel to each voice

> 
> Thus it looks Something like this
> 
> CH=01 VO=01 `bass'
> CH=01 VO=02 `guitar'
> CH=01 VO=03 `piano'
> CH-01 VO=04 `choir'
> 
> So far so good, but when push on the VO channel to change the patch of
> guitar, it seems to `follow' it and changes the `bass' sound to the
> `guitar'.
> 
> When you pull it back down to the original channel (01), it goes back
> to the bass. The effect is that it makes it really hard to get a good
> understanding of what sounds go best with eachother!
> 
> The sequencer is an alesis mmt8 and I'm sending out on tracks 1,2,3,4.
> 
> Is this standard behaviour for a cz-1000? I don't expect it to run
> like a pro sound module or anything but I was really hoping it could
> run 4 seperate monophonic parts which could be changed/altered
> independently of each other.
> 
> Can anyone help? I will reward you with my three of my favourite
> italo/chip tunes!
> 
> Cheers :)
> 
> and thanks to everyone who advised me on the dump/sysex thing, am 
> gonna try it when my laptop's back up and running
>

PS: Check out the Sysex guide in the files section, esp. p 3.

It shows an example with 2 synths:
Track 1 --> CH 1  [polyphonic synth]
Track 2 --> CH 2 VO 2 [CZ-101/1000]
Track 3 --> CH 2 VO 3 [CZ-101/1000]
Track 4 --> CH 2 VO 4 [CZ-101/1000]

So I would assume to get all 4 channels going to the CZ-101 you are 
doing the right thing.

Maybe someone else can help.

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "vaisvil" <cjv01@...> wrote:
>
> you need to assign a separate midi channel to each voice
> 
> 

Is that right? You mean on the cz itself? I've already assigned 
seperate midi channels on the mmt8 sequencer

So the cz display should look something like this?

> > CH=01 VO=01 `bass'
> > CH=02 VO=02 `guitar'
> > CH=03 VO=03 `piano'
> > CH-04 VO=04 `choir'

I'll try it when I get home.Thanks :)

Alex




> > 
> > Thus it looks Something like this
> > 
> > CH=01 VO=01 `bass'
> > CH=01 VO=02 `guitar'
> > CH=01 VO=03 `piano'
> > CH-01 VO=04 `choir'
> > 
> > So far so good, but when push on the VO channel to change the 
patch of
> > guitar, it seems to `follow' it and changes the `bass' sound to 
the
> > `guitar'.
> > 
> > When you pull it back down to the original channel (01), it goes 
back
> > to the bass. The effect is that it makes it really hard to get a 
good
> > understanding of what sounds go best with eachother!
> > 
> > The sequencer is an alesis mmt8 and I'm sending out on tracks 
1,2,3,4.
> > 
> > Is this standard behaviour for a cz-1000? I don't expect it to run
> > like a pro sound module or anything but I was really hoping it 
could

> > run 4 seperate monophonic parts which could be changed/altered
> > independently of each other.
> > 
> > Can anyone help? I will reward you with my three of my favourite
> > italo/chip tunes!
> > 
> > Cheers :)
> > 
> > and thanks to everyone who advised me on the dump/sysex thing, am 
> > gonna try it when my laptop's back up and running
> >
>