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Backlit LCD for cz101...

Backlit LCD for cz101...

2011-06-24 by Joe J

I love the Casio CZ series synthesizers, but all of them except the cz1 and cz5000 suffer from having dim grey screens with no backlight, which makes them nearly impossible to use on a dark stage. You can buy backlit LCD displays all day long for 3 bucks on ebay, so I decided replace the dim grey LCD screen in my Casio cz101 with a bright blue backlit one. Simple mod. Huge improvement! 

Pics:
http://imgur.com/a/cKT2q

Next, I want to add a rotary encoder for faster scrolling through parameter values, but that's a little more complicated.

Re: Backlit LCD for cz101...

2011-06-24 by alatar2201

Wow! That was the best replacement LCD job on a CZ synth that I have ever seen. I need to replace the dimming LCD on my CZ-1. Can you reply to the group with details on how you did this and where you got that LCD?


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Joe J" <freshcupofjoe@...> wrote:
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> I love the Casio CZ series synthesizers, but all of them except the cz1 and cz5000 suffer from having dim grey screens with no backlight, which makes them nearly impossible to use on a dark stage. You can buy backlit LCD displays all day long for 3 bucks on ebay, so I decided replace the dim grey LCD screen in my Casio cz101 with a bright blue backlit one. Simple mod. Huge improvement! 
> 
> Pics:
> http://imgur.com/a/cKT2q
> 
> Next, I want to add a rotary encoder for faster scrolling through parameter values, but that's a little more complicated.
>

Re: [CZsynth] Re: Backlit LCD for cz101...

2011-06-24 by Lee Borrell

I have a number of LCD fitted units - how hard is it actually to fit the lights?

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      Wow! That was the best replacement LCD job on a CZ synth that I have ever seen. I need to replace the dimming LCD on my CZ-1. Can you reply to the group with details on how you did this and where you got that LCD?



--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Joe J" <freshcupofjoe@...> wrote:

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> I love the Casio CZ series synthesizers, but all of them except the cz1 and cz5000 suffer from having dim grey screens with no backlight, which makes them nearly impossible to use on a dark stage. You can buy backlit LCD displays all day long for 3 bucks on ebay, so I decided replace the dim grey LCD screen in my Casio cz101 with a bright blue backlit one. Simple mod. Huge improvement! 

> 

> Pics:

> http://imgur.com/a/cKT2q

> 

> Next, I want to add a rotary encoder for faster scrolling through parameter values, but that's a little more complicated.

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Re: [CZsynth] Re: Backlit LCD for cz101...

2011-06-24 by jammie.emma@blueyonder.co.uk

depends if you are making them or buying them if making you buy a sheet of efiol comes in a suere sheet with multipul cathode and anode terminals get you old display and fit onto the efoil sheet make sure the cathode and anode terminal is in the same place as your terminals on your efoil then draw a permenantmarker fine tip around it 

now cut it 2mm smaller than yours all the way round 

now you need  to buy glue copper terminal strips they are wires that are tinned they look like sperms you need to glue these to the foil cathod and anode terminals using conductive glue 

once this is done then get some laminate plastic sheet and place to sheets 1 either side 

then place in a laminate heat compress like when you do a laminated sign on a4 sheets now heat the laminate sheet  so that it forms around the efoil then cut it to exact size of your efoil then s;lide behid the lcd and drop solder the pins to the solder points dont leave the soldering iron to long onto 

the new terminals as the glue has a melting point to long and the glue will melt and you loose the connection

just drop solder which is get your gun very hot hold over the terninal solder point in a vertical direction  and add solder to gun it will melt and will drop off in a ball which will hit the terminal and solidify

or if you dont want to make your own then just buy 1 that has already been done desolder and resolder same drop solder method 

the making of the efoil is the same for every efoil synth that you own for a large sheet which cost about £80 you can make upto 15 efoils which makes it cheap 

thats what these efoil companies do then sell them for £30-40 upto £60-80 for the large lcd 

so if you put it into perspective a sheet can make you up to £500+ pounds 
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  I have a number of LCD fitted units - how hard is it actually to fit the lights?

  --- On Fri, 24/6/11, alatar2201 <garyd@...> wrote:

  From: alatar2201 <garyd@...>
  Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Backlit LCD for cz101...
  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Friday, 24 June, 2011, 14:44

   

  Wow! That was the best replacement LCD job on a CZ synth that I have ever seen. I need to replace the dimming LCD on my CZ-1. Can you reply to the group with details on how you did this and where you got that LCD?

  --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Joe J" <freshcupofjoe@...> wrote:

  >

  > I love the Casio CZ series synthesizers, but all of them except the cz1 and cz5000 suffer from having dim grey screens with no backlight, which makes them nearly impossible to use on a dark stage. You can buy backlit LCD displays all day long for 3 bucks on ebay, so I decided replace the dim grey LCD screen in my Casio cz101 with a bright blue backlit one. Simple mod. Huge improvement! 

  > 

  > Pics:

  > http://imgur.com/a/cKT2q

  > 

  > Next, I want to add a rotary encoder for faster scrolling through parameter values, but that's a little more complicated.

  >

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Re: Backlit LCD for cz101...

2011-06-24 by Dave

Hi, group!

I think we'd all love to know the brand and model number of the backlit LCD display that you used, how you hooked up the backlight, how much more current it might draw, etc., if you'd be so kind.

This is something that the CZs have needed for a Long Time - and to see it actually accomplished is like dangling a carrot on a stick.

Even better would be if you could write up the procedure that you followed, complete with those wonderful illustrations, and post it in the "Files" section...  again, if you'd be so kind.

THANKS for showing that this is possible, and for sharing the photos with the rest of us!

Dave

Re: Backlit LCD for cz101...

2011-06-24 by Joe J

It's just a standard 16x2 lcd (HD44780). I bought the cheapest one I could find on ebay. Not sure how much current it draws, but the cz101 seems to be handling it just fine. Most LED backlit LCDs have a fairly low current draw and should work okay. Though, I have heard reports of some oddball displays that draw significantly more current than others, namely ones made by crystalfontz and possibly others that display bright, high contrast colored text on a black background, so it would probably be wise to avoid these these types of displays. 

If you want to do this mod, you will have to file or cut the screw holes wider on the new lcd board in order to get it to fit on the mounting bracket. I used a dremel tool. Also, it's a pretty tight fit in there (at least it was on the cz101), so watch where you run your wires. The battery compartment leaves very little clearance behind the screen.

The LCD board in the cz101 has 14 pins. Most of the backlit screens sold on ebay have 16 pins. The extra 2 pins are for power and ground to the backlight. you simply need to jumper these 2 pins to the existing power and ground pins. On my cz101 the power wire was white and the ground wire is red, and they are either the first or the last 2 pins depending on which direction you are counting from. Aside from the 2 extra pins, all HD44780 LCD display boards should have the same pinout, so as long as you keep the wires in the same order, the worst you can do is hook it up backwards.

Here is an HD44780 pinout diagram for reference:
http://www.instructables.com/image/FMCPZRTG8LWOHW9/HD44780-pinout.jpg

Here is a picture I found on the internet that I used as a reference to make sure I didn't wire it up backwards: 
http://a3.img.mobypicture.com/57e589270d80ba39b7c00a8db539c8d3_large.jpg

Note that this person added a trimmer to adjust the contrast of the screen. I didn't find the trimmer necessary and left it out.

There is also this helpful youtube video which shows how to disassemble the cz101 and get to the display board:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ZSPSdKhQE

Everything else should be pretty straight forward. If you need any help, feel free to post your questions here and I'll try to answer as best I can.

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <daveogarf@...> wrote:
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> Hi, group!
> 
> I think we'd all love to know the brand and model number of the backlit LCD display that you used, how you hooked up the backlight, how much more current it might draw, etc., if you'd be so kind.
> 
> This is something that the CZs have needed for a Long Time - and to see it actually accomplished is like dangling a carrot on a stick.
> 
> Even better would be if you could write up the procedure that you followed, complete with those wonderful illustrations, and post it in the "Files" section...  again, if you'd be so kind.
> 
> THANKS for showing that this is possible, and for sharing the photos with the rest of us!
> 
> Dave
>

Re: [CZsynth] Backlit LCD for cz101...

2011-06-24 by Ullrich Peter

Hi Joe!

>I love the Casio CZ series synthesizers, but all of them except the cz1 and cz5000 suffer from having dim grey screens with no 
>backlight, which makes them nearly impossible to use on a dark stage. You can buy backlit LCD displays all day long for 3 
>bucks on ebay, so I decided replace the dim grey LCD screen in my Casio cz101 with a bright blue backlit one. Simple mod. 
>Huge improvement!

Wow, your CZ101 is looking really cool. I think I should also make the upgrade (as I have one of these nice blue LCDs here).

>Next, I want to add a rotary encoder for faster scrolling through parameter values, but that's a little more complicated.

You can have a look at my datadial - I think that's what you are looking for. I have designed this after a discussion in the CZsynth 
list a few years ago.  Maybe you have been involved in the discussion too?
Now it is ready and working but haven't posted to the list yet...

http://go.to/datadial 

I build it into my K3m and my CZ101. I could send you some photos of the CZ101 implementation if needed. If more people 
are interested I could put it on my webpage if I can find some time...

Ciao
Peter

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Re: Backlit LCD for cz101...

2011-06-26 by Joe J

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. Your datadial was exactly what I was planning on putting together! I thought I had an original idea, but I guess not. I should have known that some clever person would have already come up with a solution to those annoying arrow buttons. It's so cool to see that someone was already working on this and that it can be done successfully. I'd love to see pics of it installed in your cz101. I'll probably have to purchase one of your data dials next time I have some extra funds, but it's a little spendy for me right now since I'm a broke college student. Thanks for making this available. Very cool little mod indeed!


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Ullrich Peter <peter.ullrich@...> 
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> You can have a look at my datadial - I think that's what you are looking for. I have designed this after a discussion in the CZsynth 
> list a few years ago.  Maybe you have been involved in the discussion too?
> Now it is ready and working but haven't posted to the list yet...
> 
> http://go.to/datadial 
> 
> I build it into my K3m and my CZ101. I could send you some photos of the CZ101 implementation if needed. If more people 
> are interested I could put it on my webpage if I can find some time...
> 
> Ciao
> Peter
> 
> http://www.ullrich.at.tf

Re: Backlit LCD for cz101...

2011-06-27 by bill bigrig

Howdy,

 Yes, I have a CZ-101, and a CZ-1. I'd like to put a datawheel in both. I'm trying to remember any other synths that could use one. Maybe my DX-21? I think maybe it uses a slider. Anyway, I'd like at least 2, if this si possible.
Rig

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