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2013-02-26 by malpolska
Hi Guys, First Post ..so Aloha! Looking to buy either (or both if I can get em! ;-) A CZ-1 or an VZ-1, if you had the choice, which board you pick up?, and your main reason for doing so would be great help/info & much appreciated..I plan to use soundquest for editing patches etc. if that helps?. many thanks & keep the tunes going. Music style for the purchase is Electronica/Club/Eighties Synth pop!.
2013-02-27 by 350ypvs@googlemail.com
I have both a CZ1 (and a 101 and 3000, need to sell the 3000!), and recently I purchased a VZ1. I find the CZ and VZ to be quite different sounding, the CZ sounds more gritty and more 'analogue', whereas the VZ1 (from my first plays with it) sound more digital and 'cleaner', much more akin to the DX7 and similar digital synths. I haven't delved into programming the VZ yet, but the CZ looks to be MUCH easier to program and a lot more hands on. From what I understand, the VZ can do more weird sounds as it has the expanded IPD (interactive phase distortion) but it somehow lost the rawness of the CZ range. Choosing between them should be done after trying each, though VZ's a quite rare. Any CZ will do for a trial as they all use the same basic sound engine, though obviously the CZ1 is the 'daddy' of the CZ range with extra patch memory, plus it's the only CZ to have velocity and after-touch. The other thing worth mentioning is that neither are expensive to buy in relation to other synths. I picked up my CZ1 for approx �120, and the VZ1 for only �70. For less than �200 you could have both! Go for a CZ3000/ 5000 and they go cheaper still. Ironically it's the baby CZ, the 101, the tends to go for the most despite having the least features (it's compact size and big sound helps with its value). With the VZ's, the rack versions (VZ8M and VZ10m) tend to go for more than the VZ1 itself. Be warned also, that both the VZ1 and CZ1 are big, heavy boards! As mentioned the VZ1 is quite rare, and I find that the CZ1 is also the rarest of the CZ range. As such, I'd suggest you buy either if one comes up for sale at a good price, then if you don't like it you can always resell as their prices appear quite stable. As long as you don't pay inflated prices you'll likely get your money back at least. Last thought, check out Youtube for demos of both. That will give you a good idea of the character and general sound between the VZ and CZ. Good luck! Chas On 26 February 2013 23:05, malpolska <allymac@neostrada.pl> wrote: > ** > > > Hi Guys, > > First Post ..so Aloha! > > Looking to buy either (or both if I can get em! ;-) > > A CZ-1 or an VZ-1, if you had the choice, which board you pick up?, and > your main reason for doing so would be great help/info & much > appreciated..I plan to use soundquest for editing patches etc. if that > helps?. > > many thanks & keep the tunes going. > > Music style for the purchase is Electronica/Club/Eighties Synth pop!. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2013-02-27 by José Ángel Morente
My little contribution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24QYv1j-vEs I own a CZ-1 as well and I love both of them <3 :-) Get both if you can! Uh... and get a little reverb/delay unit if you don't have one. These babies sound a lot better with a bit of echo ;-) -- On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 6:13 PM, 350ypvs@... <350ypvs@...> wrote:
> I have both a CZ1 (and a 101 and 3000, need to sell the 3000!), and > recently I purchased a VZ1. I find the CZ and VZ to be quite different > sounding, the CZ sounds more gritty and more 'analogue', whereas the VZ1 > (from my first plays with it) sound more digital and 'cleaner', much more > akin to the DX7 and similar digital synths. I haven't delved into > programming the VZ yet, but the CZ looks to be MUCH easier to program and a > lot more hands on. From what I understand, the VZ can do more weird sounds > as it has the expanded IPD (interactive phase distortion) but it somehow > lost the rawness of the CZ range. > > Choosing between them should be done after trying each, though VZ's a quite > rare. Any CZ will do for a trial as they all use the same basic sound > engine, though obviously the CZ1 is the 'daddy' of the CZ range with extra > patch memory, plus it's the only CZ to have velocity and after-touch. > > The other thing worth mentioning is that neither are expensive to buy in > relation to other synths. I picked up my CZ1 for approx £120, and the VZ1 > for only £70. For less than £200 you could have both! Go for a CZ3000/ 5000 > and they go cheaper still. Ironically it's the baby CZ, the 101, the tends > to go for the most despite having the least features (it's compact size and > big sound helps with its value). With the VZ's, the rack versions (VZ8M and > VZ10m) tend to go for more than the VZ1 itself. Be warned also, that both > the VZ1 and CZ1 are big, heavy boards! > > As mentioned the VZ1 is quite rare, and I find that the CZ1 is also the > rarest of the CZ range. As such, I'd suggest you buy either if one comes up > for sale at a good price, then if you don't like it you can always resell > as their prices appear quite stable. As long as you don't pay inflated > prices you'll likely get your money back at least. > > Last thought, check out Youtube for demos of both. That will give you a > good idea of the character and general sound between the VZ and CZ. > > Good luck! > > Chas > > > > On 26 February 2013 23:05, malpolska <allymac@...> wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> First Post ..so Aloha! >> >> Looking to buy either (or both if I can get em! ;-) >> >> A CZ-1 or an VZ-1, if you had the choice, which board you pick up?, and >> your main reason for doing so would be great help/info & much >> appreciated..I plan to use soundquest for editing patches etc. if that >> helps?. >> >> many thanks & keep the tunes going. >> >> Music style for the purchase is Electronica/Club/Eighties Synth pop!. >> >> >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
2013-02-27 by Jason Adkins
Ultra deep reverb man,better than a DX100
On 27 Feb 2013, at 17:28, José Ángel Morente wrote: > My little contribution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24QYv1j-vEs > > I own a CZ-1 as well and I love both of them <3 :-) > > Get both if you can! > > Uh... and get a little reverb/delay unit if you don't have one. These > babies sound a lot better with a bit of echo ;-) > > -- > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 6:13 PM, 350ypvs@... > <350ypvs@...> wrote: >> I have both a CZ1 (and a 101 and 3000, need to sell the 3000!), and >> recently I purchased a VZ1. I find the CZ and VZ to be quite >> different >> sounding, the CZ sounds more gritty and more 'analogue', whereas >> the VZ1 >> (from my first plays with it) sound more digital and 'cleaner', >> much more >> akin to the DX7 and similar digital synths. I haven't delved into >> programming the VZ yet, but the CZ looks to be MUCH easier to >> program and a >> lot more hands on. From what I understand, the VZ can do more weird >> sounds >> as it has the expanded IPD (interactive phase distortion) but it >> somehow >> lost the rawness of the CZ range. >> >> Choosing between them should be done after trying each, though VZ's >> a quite >> rare. Any CZ will do for a trial as they all use the same basic sound >> engine, though obviously the CZ1 is the 'daddy' of the CZ range >> with extra >> patch memory, plus it's the only CZ to have velocity and after-touch. >> >> The other thing worth mentioning is that neither are expensive to >> buy in >> relation to other synths. I picked up my CZ1 for approx £120, and >> the VZ1 >> for only £70. For less than £200 you could have both! Go for a >> CZ3000/ 5000 >> and they go cheaper still. Ironically it's the baby CZ, the 101, >> the tends >> to go for the most despite having the least features (it's compact >> size and >> big sound helps with its value). With the VZ's, the rack versions >> (VZ8M and >> VZ10m) tend to go for more than the VZ1 itself. Be warned also, >> that both >> the VZ1 and CZ1 are big, heavy boards! >> >> As mentioned the VZ1 is quite rare, and I find that the CZ1 is also >> the >> rarest of the CZ range. As such, I'd suggest you buy either if one >> comes up >> for sale at a good price, then if you don't like it you can always >> resell >> as their prices appear quite stable. As long as you don't pay >> inflated >> prices you'll likely get your money back at least. >> >> Last thought, check out Youtube for demos of both. That will give >> you a >> good idea of the character and general sound between the VZ and CZ. >> >> Good luck! >> >> Chas >> >> >> >> On 26 February 2013 23:05, malpolska <allymac@...> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> First Post ..so Aloha! >>> >>> Looking to buy either (or both if I can get em! ;-) >>> >>> A CZ-1 or an VZ-1, if you had the choice, which board you pick >>> up?, and >>> your main reason for doing so would be great help/info & much >>> appreciated..I plan to use soundquest for editing patches etc. if >>> that >>> helps?. >>> >>> many thanks & keep the tunes going. >>> >>> Music style for the purchase is Electronica/Club/Eighties Synth >>> pop!. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
2013-03-03 by malpolska
MANY thanbks guys!.... I just purchased a VZ!!...with rom card!... so happy bunny...will be picking our brains over the coming future! ...many thanks to my fellow casio users..... geting my shnizzle on with my interpretation of Space Disco....PERFECT Keys for this type of sound....80s synthpop & space disco/french house! ....Casio Rocks! ;-) --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808@...> wrote:
> > Ultra deep reverb man,better than a DX100 > > On 27 Feb 2013, at 17:28, José Ángel Morente wrote: > > > My little contribution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24QYv1j-vEs > > > > I own a CZ-1 as well and I love both of them <3 :-) > > > > Get both if you can! > > > > Uh... and get a little reverb/delay unit if you don't have one. These > > babies sound a lot better with a bit of echo ;-) > > > > -- > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 6:13 PM, 350ypvs@... > > <350ypvs@...> wrote: > >> I have both a CZ1 (and a 101 and 3000, need to sell the 3000!), and > >> recently I purchased a VZ1. I find the CZ and VZ to be quite > >> different > >> sounding, the CZ sounds more gritty and more 'analogue', whereas > >> the VZ1 > >> (from my first plays with it) sound more digital and 'cleaner', > >> much more > >> akin to the DX7 and similar digital synths. I haven't delved into > >> programming the VZ yet, but the CZ looks to be MUCH easier to > >> program and a > >> lot more hands on. From what I understand, the VZ can do more weird > >> sounds > >> as it has the expanded IPD (interactive phase distortion) but it > >> somehow > >> lost the rawness of the CZ range. > >> > >> Choosing between them should be done after trying each, though VZ's > >> a quite > >> rare. Any CZ will do for a trial as they all use the same basic sound > >> engine, though obviously the CZ1 is the 'daddy' of the CZ range > >> with extra > >> patch memory, plus it's the only CZ to have velocity and after-touch. > >> > >> The other thing worth mentioning is that neither are expensive to > >> buy in > >> relation to other synths. I picked up my CZ1 for approx £120, and > >> the VZ1 > >> for only £70. For less than £200 you could have both! Go for a > >> CZ3000/ 5000 > >> and they go cheaper still. Ironically it's the baby CZ, the 101, > >> the tends > >> to go for the most despite having the least features (it's compact > >> size and > >> big sound helps with its value). With the VZ's, the rack versions > >> (VZ8M and > >> VZ10m) tend to go for more than the VZ1 itself. Be warned also, > >> that both > >> the VZ1 and CZ1 are big, heavy boards! > >> > >> As mentioned the VZ1 is quite rare, and I find that the CZ1 is also > >> the > >> rarest of the CZ range. As such, I'd suggest you buy either if one > >> comes up > >> for sale at a good price, then if you don't like it you can always > >> resell > >> as their prices appear quite stable. As long as you don't pay > >> inflated > >> prices you'll likely get your money back at least. > >> > >> Last thought, check out Youtube for demos of both. That will give > >> you a > >> good idea of the character and general sound between the VZ and CZ. > >> > >> Good luck! > >> > >> Chas > >> > >> > >> > >> On 26 February 2013 23:05, malpolska <allymac@...> wrote: > >> > >>> ** > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi Guys, > >>> > >>> First Post ..so Aloha! > >>> > >>> Looking to buy either (or both if I can get em! ;-) > >>> > >>> A CZ-1 or an VZ-1, if you had the choice, which board you pick > >>> up?, and > >>> your main reason for doing so would be great help/info & much > >>> appreciated..I plan to use soundquest for editing patches etc. if > >>> that > >>> helps?. > >>> > >>> many thanks & keep the tunes going. > >>> > >>> Music style for the purchase is Electronica/Club/Eighties Synth > >>> pop!. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------ > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >