Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Hi, there!
Yes, indeed would be great! On the other side, I would like to obtain a warmer sound, since nobody would change my mind about the fact that amplification sector of the synth sends out yes, a powerful sound, but with a little plastic feeling. Someone could say " Hey, it's the synth, due its digital nature!". Of course, but any time i hear it, something says me in my brain: " There must be something that could be done, to have a warmer sound from the board"....
What do You all think?
And, OH !!! IMPORTANT !! I saw some years ago on the web a very good page regarding various synths and effects, carefully explaining about a CZ 1 deep editing, made using Sysex parameters, if I well remember, to gain some extra waveforms with resonance. Maybe three or four, can't say now. Nobody remembers it?
I could recall it through Wayback Machine some weeks ago, since it was down. Luckily I could see again the pages, unluckily not all the images and explaination schematics, nor the .sit files to obtain the deep editing on.... SoundDiver, maybe? I tried every way, but all I got was a 3 Kb file for every file I wanted to archive again.And it was a generic file, not the true original.....  :-( .
Sorry for my not-so-good English ( hope I helped, anyway.... )
Francesco.
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Lun 20/10/14, soundprogramer@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:

 Oggetto: [CZsynth] Waveform ROM Hack?
 A: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
 Data: Lunedì 20 ottobre 2014, 15:39
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       If you are happy with only 8 internal PD CZ
 synth..  Can you imagine a 16 internal waveforms
 hack?   
 
 Don´t know if firmware must be reverse engenering but any
 CZ synthesizer with extended waveforms will be and absolute
 beast of sythesizer sound maker.  
 
 Any one knows if possible?   Digital synthesizers
 seems to be harder to hack than olders analogs.  
 
 Discusion open

This?
http://www.kasploosh.com/projects/CZ/11800-spelunking/

> On Oct 29, 2014, at 12:55 PM, "'F.Manduca' resistenzaaoltranza@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Hi, there!
> Yes, indeed would be great! On the other side, I would like to obtain a warmer sound, since nobody would change my mind about the fact that amplification sector of the synth sends out yes, a powerful sound, but with a little plastic feeling. Someone could say " Hey, it's the synth, due its digital nature!". Of course, but any time i hear it, something says me in my brain: " There must be something that could be done, to have a warmer sound from the board"....
> What do You all think?
> And, OH !!! IMPORTANT !! I saw some years ago on the web a very good page regarding various synths and effects, carefully explaining about a CZ 1 deep editing, made using Sysex parameters, if I well remember, to gain some extra waveforms with resonance. Maybe three or four, can't say now. Nobody remembers it?
> I could recall it through Wayback Machine some weeks ago, since it was down. Luckily I could see again the pages, unluckily not all the images and explaination schematics, nor the .sit files to obtain the deep editing on.... SoundDiver, maybe? I tried every way, but all I got was a 3 Kb file for every file I wanted to archive again.And it was a generic file, not the true original..... :-( .
> Sorry for my not-so-good English ( hope I helped, anyway.... )
> Francesco.
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> Lun 20/10/14, soundprogramer@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:
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> Oggetto: [CZsynth] Waveform ROM Hack?
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> Data: Lunedì 20 ottobre 2014, 15:39
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If it is Sean's page you're after it would be http://homepage.mac.com/synth_seal/html which no longer works but is on Waybackmachine.

On 30 Oct 2014, at 16:35, José Ángel Morente msxjam@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

You must mean the Sean's pages. That site doesn't exist anymore. It was hosted under the mac.com domain or something related to Apple, but I cannot recall exactly.


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> On 29 October 2014 17:55, 'F.Manduca' resistenzaaoltranza@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Hi, there!
> Yes, indeed would be great! On the other side, I would like to obtain a warmer sound, since nobody would change my mind about the fact that amplification sector of the synth sends out yes, a powerful sound, but with a little plastic feeling. Someone could say " Hey, it's the synth, due its digital nature!". Of course, but any time i hear it, something says me in my brain: " There must be something that could be done, to have a warmer sound from the board"....
> What do You all think?
> And, OH !!! IMPORTANT !! I saw some years ago on the web a very good page regarding various synths and effects, carefully explaining about a CZ 1 deep editing, made using Sysex parameters, if I well remember, to gain some extra waveforms with resonance. Maybe three or four, can't say now. Nobody remembers it?
> I could recall it through Wayback Machine some weeks ago, since it was down. Luckily I could see again the pages, unluckily not all the images and explaination schematics, nor the .sit files to obtain the deep editing on.... SoundDiver, maybe? I tried every way, but all I got was a 3 Kb file for every file I wanted to archive again.And it was a generic file, not the true original..... :-( .
> Sorry for my not-so-good English ( hope I helped, anyway.... )
> Francesco.
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> Lun 20/10/14, soundprogramer@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:
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> Oggetto: [CZsynth] Waveform ROM Hack?
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> Don´t know if firmware must be reverse engenering but any
> CZ synthesizer with extended waveforms will be and absolute
> beast of sythesizer sound maker.  
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> Any one knows if possible?   Digital synthesizers
> seems to be harder to hack than olders analogs.  
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> Discusion open

I'm pretty sure this is the page/site being referred to, and even if it isn't it is fascinating reading for all CZ fanatics!

http://www.kasploosh.com/projects/CZ/11800-spelunking/2-basic_waves.html

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2014, at 12:15, "analogmonster@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> If it is Sean's page you're after it would be http://homepage.mac.com/synth_seal/html which no longer works but is on Waybackmachine.
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> On 30 Oct 2014, at 16:35, José Ángel Morente msxjam@gmail.com [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> On 29 October 2014 17:55, 'F.Manduca' resistenzaaoltranza@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Hi, there!
>> Yes, indeed would be great! On the other side, I would like to obtain a warmer sound, since nobody would change my mind about the fact that amplification sector of the synth sends out yes, a powerful sound, but with a little plastic feeling. Someone could say " Hey, it's the synth, due its digital nature!". Of course, but any time i hear it, something says me in my brain: " There must be something that could be done, to have a warmer sound from the board"....
>> What do You all think?
>> And, OH !!! IMPORTANT !! I saw some years ago on the web a very good page regarding various synths and effects, carefully explaining about a CZ 1 deep editing, made using Sysex parameters, if I well remember, to gain some extra waveforms with resonance. Maybe three or four, can't say now. Nobody remembers it?
>> I could recall it through Wayback Machine some weeks ago, since it was down. Luckily I could see again the pages, unluckily not all the images and explaination schematics, nor the .sit files to obtain the deep editing on.... SoundDiver, maybe? I tried every way, but all I got was a 3 Kb file for every file I wanted to archive again.And it was a generic file, not the true original..... :-( .
>> Sorry for my not-so-good English ( hope I helped, anyway.... )
>> Francesco.
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>> Lun 20/10/14, soundprogramer@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:
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>> Oggetto: [CZsynth] Waveform ROM Hack?
>> A: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>> Data: Lunedì 20 ottobre 2014, 15:39
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>> If you are happy with only 8 internal PD CZ
>> synth..  Can you imagine a 16 internal waveforms
>> hack?   
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>> Don´t know if firmware must be reverse engenering but any
>> CZ synthesizer with extended waveforms will be and absolute
>> beast of sythesizer sound maker.  
>> 
>> Any one knows if possible?   Digital synthesizers
>> seems to be harder to hack than olders analogs.  
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>> Discusion open
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Yes, it must be that!! I could see it again using Wayback machine  ( archive.org page). But, alas, no files to be downloaded again....
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Gio 30/10/14, José Ángel Morente msxjam@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:

 Oggetto: Re: [CZsynth] Waveform ROM Hack?
 A: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
 Data: Giovedì 30 ottobre 2014, 17:35
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       You must mean the Sean's
 pages. That site doesn't exist anymore. It was hosted
 under the mac.com domain or something
 related to Apple, but I cannot recall exactly.
 
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 On 29 October 2014 17:55,
 'F.Manduca' resistenzaaoltranza@...
 [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Hi, there!
 
 Yes, indeed would be great! On the other side, I would like
 to obtain a warmer sound, since nobody would change my mind
 about the fact that amplification sector of the synth sends
 out yes, a powerful sound, but with a little plastic
 feeling. Someone could say " Hey, it's the synth,
 due its digital nature!". Of course, but any time i
 hear it, something says me in my brain: " There must be
 something that could be done, to have a warmer sound from
 the board"....
 
 What do You all think?
 
 And, OH !!! IMPORTANT !! I saw some years ago on the web a
 very good page regarding various synths and effects,
 carefully explaining about a CZ 1 deep editing, made using
 Sysex parameters, if I well remember, to gain some extra
 waveforms with resonance. Maybe three or four, can't say
 now. Nobody remembers it?
 
 I could recall it through Wayback Machine some weeks ago,
 since it was down. Luckily I could see again the pages,
 unluckily not all the images and explaination schematics,
 nor the .sit files to obtain the deep editing on....
 SoundDiver, maybe? I tried every way, but all I got was a 3
 Kb file for every file I wanted to archive again.And it was
 a generic file, not the true original.....  :-( .
 
 Sorry for my not-so-good English ( hope I helped, anyway....
 )
 
 Francesco.
 
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 Lun 20/10/14, soundprogramer@...
 [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
 ha scritto:
 
 
 
 Oggetto: [CZsynth] Waveform ROM Hack?
 
  A: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
 
  Data: Lunedì 20 ottobre 2014, 15:39
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
    
 
  
 
  
 
      
 
        
 
        
 
        If you are happy with only 8 internal PD CZ
 
  synth..  Can you imagine a 16 internal waveforms
 
  hack?   
 
  
 
  Don´t know if firmware must be reverse engenering but
 any
 
  CZ synthesizer with extended waveforms will be and
 absolute
 
  beast of sythesizer sound maker.  
 
  
 
  Any one knows if possible?   Digital synthesizers
 
  seems to be harder to hack than olders analogs.  
 
  
 
  Discusion open
 
  
 
      
 
       
 
  
 
      
 
      
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
    
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
 #yiv2045509284 #yiv2045509284 --

As You mentioned, and relating to http://homepage.mac.com/synth_seal/html, which no longer works but is on Waybackmachine, it could be done using a special Sound Diver adaptation made by him, downloadable through a link on the page.But.... I tried to download it again, but no way...Only a 3 kb file, with the text of the trouble... Anyone perhaps has archived it somewhere?
Francesco.
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Gio 30/10/14, soundprogramer@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:

 Oggetto: Re: R: [CZsynth] Waveform ROM Hack?
 A: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
 Data: Giovedì 30 ottobre 2014, 01:40
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       CZ-1 Have special sysex editing for addicional PD
 synthesis (no originally documented by Casio) including a
 few internal resonant varations and pulse waveforms, plus a
 few more ring mod and noise. 
 And more line
 selec variations too.  
 But CZ-101, 1000,
 3000 and 5000 haven´t. 
 Any one Knows if
 the standard ROM can be modified to do so?  
 
 Don´t know why Casio never
 made a CZ or PD rebirth because are powerfull source of
 exclusive sounds.  
 With extended waveforms
 and adds on in the PD synthesis extructure. 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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Francesco, email me at narfman96 at yahooo dot com and I will send Sealed's ada file.

Hello , pal.
I just now read this new E-mail of Yours. I supposed that everything was in the Zip file sent to me yesterday, or is there something new\different? Any new is obviously welcome.
Thanks again,
Francesco.
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Mer 12/11/14, narfman96@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:

 Oggetto: Re: R: [CZsynth] Waveform ROM Hack?
 A: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
 Data: Mercoledì 12 novembre 2014, 00:32
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Francesco, email me at narfman96 at yahooo dot com
 and I will send Sealed's ada file.
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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I would do it with pleasure, but just now I am a bit in a hurry with my duty, so I am trying to do it tonight... On the other side I never tried to upload some files to a group before now. I hope I can do it... Let's see :-) .
Francesco.
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Mer 12/11/14, analogmonster@... [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> ha scritto:

 Oggetto: Re: R: [CZsynth] Waveform ROM Hack?
 A: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
 Data: Mercoledì 12 novembre 2014, 01:47
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Any chance you could upload it to the
 files section on here? I'm sure lots of people would
 find it useful
 
 
 
 
 On 11 Nov
 2014, at 23:32, narfman96@...
 [CZsynth] <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
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       Francesco, email me at narfman96 at yahooo dot com
 and I will send Sealed's ada file.
 
     
      
 
     
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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