Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

thanks to Julian  who said 

that filter value is kinda low.. why not open it right up?
also, what's the HPF doing in this patch? if that's set at "o 99", 
you won'thear much.

well the filter helped a little and the hpf  wasn't the issue 

and thanks also to Miles who said

I think the basic formula for the overal VCA output level is:

final_level = (level + env_amt * env_level) * volume

[where "env_level" is the current level of the VCA envelope.]

So for typical sounds you'd set "level' to 0, "env_amt" to 100, and
"volume" to 100, and reduce "volume" if it's too loud. For drones 
you'd
set "level" to 100 and "env_amt" to 0.

that seemed to do the trick 

anyway I'm now getting something out of my pride and joy Evolver so 
the rest is the work to fill in patches 2-128   

thanks to all 

this is a great forum for a great synth