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Re: [Evolver] Re: Per/pek - saving programs edited in combo mode

2006-02-28 by Gene Schwartz

\u201cSo if I was to load 4 separate programs into the combo and then edit the sequence of each one and save the combo that would work ok?

It’s only when I use the same program in the 4 parts and edit them that I cannot save correctly?

Have I got this right?

Cheers

Andy\u201d

No unfortunately, if that were the case it would be easy to work around it. If you load 4 different programs into combo mode, and then, say change the first sequence in part 1 to have last step 9, and then edit the destination of the second sequence in part 2 to influence lp cutoff, and then you saved the combo, or changed the number of voices taken by part 2, you would lose those changes.

From: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gene Schwartz
Sent: 27 February 2006 23:03
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Evolver] Re: Per/pek - saving programs edited in combo mode

When you\u2019re in combo mode, there are 2 kinds of changes you can make, if you look at it with this distinction in mind. You can make changes to the combo level features to each part \u2013 tempo, transpose, mode (how many voices per part), clock div, etc. But you can also then go and make changes to the sounds \u2013 filter cutoff for the sound in part 1, or vca level for the sound in part 2, etc. These are the changes that you normally save when you save a program in program mode. Some of the basic sequencer parameters are found on both levels \u2013 temp/clock division of the sequencer, for instance.

Ok \u2013 So, suppose you217;ve started to work this way.....I discovered this when I wanted to mess around with an identical program/sequence in 2 of the parts, and then start making changes to various parameters.

Well, you\u2019ve made a bunch of changes and it sounds really good, or really bad (I sometimes like to save some of my most profoundly bad stuff in case I ever get employed by the CIA), and you want to save some of the program edits and sequencer changes. Well, you can\u2019t do it. There is no way. The combo level stuff will save with the combo, but there is no way to save the stuff that changes the sound itself, or anything to do with specific steps of the sequencer, any modulations, etc...But don\u2019t make the mistake of saving the combo, or you will lose everything right there, except for the combo stuff 211; the programs you will save will be the originals, not the edited versions.

It\u2019s also a mistake when you\u2019re working this way to change any of several parameters that give basic information about the structure of that combo part. If you decide to use 2 voices in channel 2, for instance, rather than 1, that will reinitialize all of the programs in all of the parts to their settings when they were first loaded into the combo part. Same with calling up another sound for part 4.

These issues effect your enjoyment only to the degree to which you want to edit and save your work in combo mode.




\u201cHI,

I am thinking of getting a PEK and this thread is worrying me slightly.

Can I check I have this correct in my head.
;
If I have a combo with 4 different programs, I fiddle with the knobs to set everythng up as I like, then I cannot save this work?

Also If I load a different program I loose all my changes?

Have I got this correct?

Thanks

Andy\u201d



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