Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

I'm not sure what you mean about the 'better survey over the single
sound'...if combo mode were fully implemented, you'd be able to quickly solo
a part, for instance. But, if you want to work with each part having a
sequencer active - OR, for instance, to take advantage of the fact that part
1 could send midi to part 2, it seems much preferable to edit in combo mode.


> In combo mode you can save only combo parameters. If you want to edit a
> sound program that is used in a combo you have to leave combo mode, go to
> program mode and edit and save there.
> 
> I made a lot of those combos with independent sequences and didn't miss the
> possibility to save in combo mode much because would have gone to program
> mode for edits anyway because of better survey over the single sound.
> 
> But that's a question of one's personal workflow and if Gene misses it, it's
> fair enough to complain.
> 
> Stefan
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Capon" <acapon@...>
> To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 7:34 AM
> Subject: RE: [Evolver] Re: Per/pek - saving programs edited in combo mode
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> So if I was to load 4 separate programs into the combo and then edit the
> sequence of each one and save the combo that would work ok?
> 
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> It's only when I use the same program in the 4 parts and edit them that
> I cannot save correctly?
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> Have I got this right?
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> Cheers
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> 
> Andy
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> On Behalf Of Gene Schwartz
> Sent: 27 February 2006 23:03
> To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Evolver] Re: Per/pek - saving programs edited in combo
> mode
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> When you're in combo mode, there are 2 kinds of changes you can
> make, if you look at it with this distinction in mind. You can make
> changes to the combo level features to each part - tempo, transpose,
> mode (how many voices per part), clock div, etc. But you can also then
> go and make changes to the sounds - filter cutoff for the sound in part
> 1, or vca level for the sound in part 2, etc. These are the changes that
> you normally save when you save a program in program mode. Some of the
> basic sequencer parameters are found on both levels - temp/clock
> division of the sequencer, for instance.
> 
> Ok - So, suppose you've started to work this way.....I
> discovered this when I wanted to mess around with an identical
> program/sequence in 2 of the parts, and then start making changes to
> various parameters.
> 
> Well, you've made a bunch of changes and it sounds really good,
> or really bad (I sometimes like to save some of my most profoundly bad
> stuff in case I ever get employed by the CIA), and you want to save some
> of the program edits and sequencer changes. Well, you can't do it. There
> is no way. The combo level stuff will save with the combo, but there is
> no way to save the stuff that changes the sound itself, or anything to
> do with specific steps of the sequencer, any modulations, etc...But
> don't make the mistake of saving the combo, or you will lose everything
> right there, except for the combo stuff - the programs you will save
> will be the originals, not the edited versions.
> 
> It's also a mistake when you're working this way to change any
> of several parameters that give basic information about the structure of
> that combo part. If you decide to use 2 voices in channel 2, for
> instance, rather than 1, that will reinitialize all of the programs in
> all of the parts to their settings when they were first loaded into the
> combo part. Same with calling up another sound for part 4.
> 
> These issues effect  your enjoyment only to the degree to which
> you want to edit and save your work in combo mode.
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> 
> "HI,
> 
> I am thinking of getting a PEK and this thread is worrying me
> slightly.
> 
> Can I check I have this correct in my head.
> 
> If I have a combo with 4 different programs, I fiddle with the
> knobs to set everythng up as I like, then I cannot save this work?
> 
> Also If I load a different program I loose all my changes?
> 
> Have I got this correct?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Andy"
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