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Re: [Evolver] Evolver as master clock for Arp sync w other synth

2003-01-20 by Ravi Sharma

Well you don't need the merger(they are about $35) if you only need to 
control one of the synths from the controller.






>From: simon leclerc <bontrip@...>
>Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Evolver] Evolver as master clock for Arp sync w other synth
>Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:44:55 -0500
>
>Hi Ravi. I just tried the Fastlane but it does not seem to act as a merger,
>but it does work as a standalone (without USB connection) for midi thru.
>I  follow what you suggested in your first respond and XT's Arp still
>is not receiving Midi out from Evolver. I plugged Midi Thru + Out from
>Evolver to Fastlane, then Fastlane out to XT in.  Midi thru works fine
>but i don't think the 2 signals merge, so Evolver Out is still not
>received.
>
>So i guess i really need that Merger :(
>
>Thanks for listening,
>
>Simon
>
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>on 19/01/03 4:35 AM, Ravi Ivan Sharma at noision1@... wrote:
>
>Cool. but again, I saw on the MOTU site that the the fastlane has a thru
>function that allows standalone use . . .
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: simon leclerc <mailto:bontrip@...>
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:39 AM
>Subject: Re: [Evolver] Evolver as master clock for Arp sync w other synth
>
>Thanks ravi. I will definitly get a merger cause i want
>the ES-1 or Evolver as the masterclock AND i want to
>control the Evolver + XT from my Midi controller keyboard.
>
>The problem with  Fastlane is that it needs a USB
>source for connection and since i don't have a computer
>on stage, i can't use it as a merger. I'm gonna get
>a Midiman 1x4 merger box i think.
>
>So, i think Es-1 should be the Masterclock since i could send
>pattern changes to the Evolver. For the last time i promise :),
>tell me if this sounds right:
>
>Controller, out --> ES-1, out + thru --> ins merger box, out -->
>to XT or Evolver in, Thru --> to XT or Evolver in.
>
>This way i should be able to control Xt + Evolver with my keyboard
>and have the 3 units sync to ES-1 as the masterclock, yes...no ?
>
>Thanks again. This is greatly appreciated,
>
>Simon
>
>
>
>on 19/01/03 12:09 AM, Ravi Ivan Sharma at noision1@... wrote:
>
>I think the fastlane has a midi THRU button for standalone use. Check your
>manual you may already have the merger you need.
>
>Otherwise just choose which you want to control with your keyboard
>controller, the XT, the evolver or the ES-1, without some sort of thru you
>can't control more than one IF you alse want all the boxes synced. 
>Whichever
>you choose to control, you have to make the first in the chain after then
>controller.
>
>So to control the evolver and have evolver as the midiclock, then
>controller, out -> Evolver, out -> XT, thru -> ES-1. Note you will only be
>able to play the evolver from the controller.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: simon leclerc <mailto:bontrip@...>
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [Evolver] Evolver as master clock for Arp sync w other synth
>
>Well you learn everyday  :)
>I was going insane here, trying to do something very
>basic i thought. Thanks Ravi.
>
>However, i'm not exactly sure if  i need a Thru or a switcher box.
>Let me tell you what i want to do, maybe you can suggest which
>one to buy.  I really don't have $$$, so the full blown midi interface
>is out of the question.
>
>Btw, i have a  Fastlane Midi interface from Motu for computer
>sequencing and i guess it will not work as a thru box, right ?
>Anyways, it's USB powered so i wont not be able to plug it in.
>
>So, i'm preparing for a live gig where i want to use an Electribe ES-1
>(will get it this week) and the Evolver  for rythm parts AND
>the Waldorf Xt as a sound source. I also want to use a couple of
>channels with XT's Arp playing in sync with his 2 buddys. I'm
>doing this with a singer / bass player.
>
>Usually, i  presequence
>the XT on the Yamaha rs7000 but  had to sell it for $$.  Anyhow,  i'm
>trying to do more things live now.  I thought i'd finally use Nanoloop on 
>my
>Gameboy but the  Midi cable offered by Oliver does not work with the oldest
>gameboy, damn ;)
>
>Thanks again for your help
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>on 18/01/03 8:29 PM, Ravi Sharma at noision1@... wrote:
>
>I take it that you want your midi controller to both "play" the evolver and
>the XT as well, as well as have the Evolver be the master clock to run the
>arps in the XT. You can do this but you need a midi-merge box. Remember 
>that
>the THRU socket only sends out whatever is recieved into the IN socket, it
>doesn't add anything or pass anything from the actual unit that the THRU
>socket is on. All that stuff comes from the OUT. Some synths have a built 
>in
>merger which allows data received at the in to merge with the data from the
>host unit and all be sent out the OUT. However neither the XT nor the
>Evolver do thi.
>
>You need to do this: Your midi controller OUT to the Evolver IN, the
>Evolver's OUT *and* THRU to the INS on the midi-merge box, and the
>midi-merge OUT to the IN of the XT. This way the midi controller controls
>both the Evovler and the XT and the Evolver clocks are merged into such 
>data
>and sent to the XT.
>
>Beware that a midi merge box is not the same as a midi splitter turned
>backwards! Get a real midi thru box. Midiman and Phil Rees make these, they
>are not too expensive.
>
>Or you can get a midi switcher which will allow you to switch to what your
>midicontroller goes to. The best but most expensive solution is to get a
>full blown midi interface. Many of these act as stand alone units too. What
>they do is pass the clock from on unit to all the midi outs (basically
>taking care of the merge).
>
>Ravi
>
> >From: simon leclerc Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com To:
> >DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Evolver] Evolver as master clock 
>for
> >Arp sync w other synth Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:23:40 -0500
> >
> >Any help will be appreciated,
> >
> >I'm trying to figure how to sync Waldorf XT Arpegiator so it receives 
>Midi
> >from DSI_Evolver. I have a midi controller pluged in the Evolver Midi in
> >and midi thru pluged in to XT midi in.
> >
> >I'm playing Evolver sequencer so it sends all midi Data. When i put XT
> >Arpegiator to Extern, it plays once then stops. But the Arp works when 
>it's
> >at any tempo, as long as it's not EXTERN.
> >
> >All i want to do basically is to have Evolver as the master clock so Xt's
> >Arp will be synced with Evolver.
> >
> >Thanks for you help or suggestions,
> >
> >Simon
> >
>
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