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Re: [Evolver] Evolver as master clock for Arp sync w other synth

2003-01-19 by Ravi Sharma

I take it that you want your midi controller to both "play" the evolver and 
the XT as well, as well as have the Evolver be the master clock to run the 
arps in the XT. You can do this but you need a midi-merge box. Remember that 
the THRU socket only sends out whatever is recieved into the IN socket, it 
doesn't add anything or pass anything from the actual unit that the THRU 
socket is on. All that stuff comes from the OUT. Some synths have a built in 
merger which allows data received at the in to merge with the data from the 
host unit and all be sent out the OUT. However neither the XT nor the 
Evolver do thi.

You need to do this: Your midi controller OUT to the Evolver IN, the 
Evolver's OUT *and* THRU to the INS on the midi-merge box, and the 
midi-merge OUT to the IN of the XT. This way the midi controller controls 
both the Evovler and the XT and the Evolver clocks are merged into such data 
and sent to the XT.

Beware that a midi merge box is not the same as a midi splitter turned 
backwards! Get a real midi thru box. Midiman and Phil Rees make these, they 
are not too expensive.

Or you can get a midi switcher which will allow you to switch to what your 
midicontroller goes to. The best but most expensive solution is to get a 
full blown midi interface. Many of these act as stand alone units too. What 
they do is pass the clock from on unit to all the midi outs (basically 
taking care of the merge).

Ravi

>From: simon leclerc Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com To: 
>DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Evolver] Evolver as master clock for 
>Arp sync w other synth Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:23:40 -0500
>
>Any help will be appreciated,
>
>I'm trying to figure how to sync Waldorf XT Arpegiator so it receives Midi 
>from DSI_Evolver. I have a midi controller pluged in the Evolver Midi in 
>and midi thru pluged in to XT midi in.
>
>I'm playing Evolver sequencer so it sends all midi Data. When i put XT 
>Arpegiator to Extern, it plays once then stops. But the Arp works when it's 
>at any tempo, as long as it's not EXTERN.
>
>All i want to do basically is to have Evolver as the master clock so Xt's 
>Arp will be synced with Evolver.
>
>Thanks for you help or suggestions,
>
>Simon
>

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Re: [Evolver] Evolver as master clock for Arp sync w other synth

2003-01-19 by simon leclerc

Well you learn everyday  :)
I was going insane here, trying to do something very
basic i thought. Thanks Ravi.

However, i'm not exactly sure if  i need a Thru or a switcher box.
Let me tell you what i want to do, maybe you can suggest which
one to buy.  I really don't have $$$, so the full blown midi interface
is out of the question.

Btw, i have a  Fastlane Midi interface from Motu for computer
sequencing and i guess it will not work as a thru box, right ?
Anyways, it's USB powered so i wont not be able to plug it in.

So, i'm preparing for a live gig where i want to use an Electribe ES-1
(will get it this week) and the Evolver  for rythm parts AND
the Waldorf Xt as a sound source. I also want to use a couple of
channels with XT's Arp playing in sync with his 2 buddys. I'm
doing this with a singer / bass player.

Usually, i  presequence
the XT on the Yamaha rs7000 but  had to sell it for $$.  Anyhow,  i'm
trying to do more things live now.  I thought i'd finally use Nanoloop on my
Gameboy but the  Midi cable offered by Oliver does not work with the oldest
gameboy, damn ;)

Thanks again for your help

on 18/01/03 8:29 PM, Ravi Sharma at noision1@... wrote:

I take it that you want your midi controller to both "play" the evolver and
the XT as well, as well as have the Evolver be the master clock to run the
arps in the XT. You can do this but you need a midi-merge box. Remember that
the THRU socket only sends out whatever is recieved into the IN socket, it
doesn't add anything or pass anything from the actual unit that the THRU
socket is on. All that stuff comes from the OUT. Some synths have a built in
merger which allows data received at the in to merge with the data from the
host unit and all be sent out the OUT. However neither the XT nor the
Evolver do thi.

You need to do this: Your midi controller OUT to the Evolver IN, the
Evolver's OUT *and* THRU to the INS on the midi-merge box, and the
midi-merge OUT to the IN of the XT. This way the midi controller controls
both the Evovler and the XT and the Evolver clocks are merged into such data
and sent to the XT.

Beware that a midi merge box is not the same as a midi splitter turned
backwards! Get a real midi thru box. Midiman and Phil Rees make these, they
are not too expensive.

Or you can get a midi switcher which will allow you to switch to what your
midicontroller goes to. The best but most expensive solution is to get a
full blown midi interface. Many of these act as stand alone units too. What
they do is pass the clock from on unit to all the midi outs (basically
taking care of the merge).

Ravi

>From: simon leclerc Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com To:
>DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Evolver] Evolver as master clock for
>Arp sync w other synth Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:23:40 -0500
>
>Any help will be appreciated,
>
>I'm trying to figure how to sync Waldorf XT Arpegiator so it receives Midi
>from DSI_Evolver. I have a midi controller pluged in the Evolver Midi in
>and midi thru pluged in to XT midi in.
>
>I'm playing Evolver sequencer so it sends all midi Data. When i put XT
>Arpegiator to Extern, it plays once then stops. But the Arp works when it's
>at any tempo, as long as it's not EXTERN.
>
>All i want to do basically is to have Evolver as the master clock so Xt's
>Arp will be synced with Evolver.
>
>Thanks for you help or suggestions,
>
>Simon
>

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Re: [Evolver] Evolver as master clock for Arp sync w other synth

2003-01-19 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

I think the fastlane has a midi THRU button for standalone use. Check your manual you may already have the merger you need.

Otherwise just choose which you want to control with your keyboard controller, the XT, the evolver or the ES-1, without some sort of thru you can't control more than one IF you alse want all the boxes synced. Whichever you choose to control, you have to make the first in the chain after then controller.

So to control the evolver and have evolver as the midiclock, then controller, out -> Evolver, out -> XT, thru -> ES-1. Note you will only be able to play the evolver from the controller.

----- Original Message -----

From: simon leclerc

To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:13 PM

Subject: Re: [Evolver] Evolver as master clock for Arp sync w other synth

Well you learn everyday :)
I was going insane here, trying to do something very
basic i thought. Thanks Ravi.

However, i'm not exactly sure if i need a Thru or a switcher box.
Let me tell you what i want to do, maybe you can suggest which
one to buy. I really don't have $$$, so the full blown midi interface
is out of the question.

Btw, i have a Fastlane Midi interface from Motu for computer
sequencing and i guess it will not work as a thru box, right ?
Anyways, it's USB powered so i wont not be able to plug it in.

So, i'm preparing for a live gig where i want to use an Electribe ES-1
(will get it this week) and the Evolver for rythm parts AND
the Waldorf Xt as a sound source. I also want to use a couple of
channels with XT's Arp playing in sync with his 2 buddys. I'm
doing this with a singer / bass player.

Usually, i presequence
the XT on the Yamaha rs7000 but had to sell it for $$. Anyhow, i'm
trying to do more things live now. I thought i'd finally use Nanoloop on my
Gameboy but the Midi cable offered by Oliver does not work with the oldest
gameboy, damn ;)

Thanks again for your help