Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Hi Stefan,

 

Thanks for all you help, I know that the output is 3 db off, this is
very annoying!

 

The test I did is still valid though. Please see enclosed jpg.

 

Top left is PEK audio recorded while playing, I also recorded the midi
and then played this back to the PEK and recorded the audio which is
shown top right. The bottom two are for the desktop, recording was
redone for this test using a different midi controller.

 

Cheers


Andy

 

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From: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Stefan Trippler
Sent: 05 July 2006 08:57
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Evolver] PEK volume lower from midi than useing keyboard

 

Hi Andrew,

there is a volume difference between the Desktop Eolver and all other 
Evolver models. The Desktop Evolver's audio out is around 3 dB louder
than 
the outs of the other models.

> Can you remember what the Transpose and LCD contrast were set to on
your 
> PEK when you first got it?

I can't. If I could it wouldn't be of much use because my PEK is a unit
from 
the pre-series-production ;)

No other ideas about your problem then, sorry. Hope support can help.

Greets

Stefan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Andrew Capon
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: [Evolver] PEK volume lower from midi than useing keyboard

Hi Stefan,

I have just done a test using my desktop evolver which produces the
correct 
volume.

I then disconnected the midi leads from the desktop and attached them to
the 
PEK and re-did the test and the volume is lower, so it definitely looks
like 
the PEK rather than the Cubase/midi controller setup.

I have had a look at the global settings and can find nothing that looks

like it may be affecting the PEK.

I have emailed support so maybe they can shed some light on this.

Also I am beginning to think that the shop has sent me a returned PEK as
the 
settings seem to be a a little wrong. Can you remember what the
Transpose 
and LCD contrast were set to on your PEK when you first got it?

Thanks

Andy

From: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com> ] On 
Behalf Of Stefan Trippler
Sent: 05 July 2006 07:59
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Evolver] PEK volume lower from midi than useing keyboard

Maybe you should check first if there isn't a kind of midi filtering in
your
PC system.

Or you can connect the PEKs midi In and Out with a cable, thus
eliminating
all influences of external interface and Cubase, switch it to local off
and
then check if there are volume differences in comparison to local on
mode
without cable. I know that this is difficult to judge because you need
to
hit identic velocity values during playing.

I hardly can imagine that there's a reason for this inside the PEK, more
likely in the external midi chain.

If a PEK and PER are chained for more polyphony they communicate via
midi
too and normally there are no volume differences between the units.

Another possibility could be in the global parameters. I don't have them
in
mind atm, maybe you can check if there are midi parameters switched off
that
could influence the reacting on external midi.

Greets
Stefan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Andrew Capon
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 7:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Evolver] PEK volume lower from midi than useing keyboard

Hi Stefan,

Do you think It is faulty?

I got it yesterday so am thinking of ringing them for a replacement.

My evolver desktop does not act in this way.

Cheers

Andy

From: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Stefan Trippler
Sent: 05 July 2006 06:22
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Evolver] PEK volume lower from midi than useing keyboard

Hi Andrew,

That's weird indeed. Don't know how this can happen.

Regards
Stefan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Capon" <acapon@... <mailto:acapon%40sgi.com> >
To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 7:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Evolver] PEK volume lower from midi than useing keyboard

Hi Stefan,

Thanks for the reply.

I have the PEK connected to a pc via midi using Cubase SX3.

If I play something on the PEK and record the midi and audio, then play
the midi back to the PEK and record the audio in Cubase it is then
between 4 and 6 db lower!

Cheers

Andy

________________________________

From: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Stefan Trippler
Sent: 04 July 2006 21:56
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Evolver] PEK volume lower from midi than useing keyboard

No this is not normal, assuming that the notes that come via midi have
the
same velocity as the motes you send from the keyboard.

Maybe you can explain in detail what you mean with "driven by midi" ?

Stefan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Capon" <acapon@... <mailto:acapon%40sgi.com>
<mailto:acapon%40sgi.com> >
To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:51 PM
Subject: [Evolver] PEK volume lower from midi than useing keyboard

Hi Guys,

My PEK has much lower volume output when driven by midi than when driven
by the keyboard, is this normal?

Cheers

Andy