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Re: [Evolver] Re: PEK Product

2007-04-08 by James Elliott

ahhh... the nord wave that looks pretty promising! HOWEVER I've had 3 nord lead 2x's and I've had to return all of them for some pretty shitty issues... Regardless, I am looking forward to the wave

-Jim


----- Original Message ----
From: William Soraparu <donnbill369@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2007 4:35:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Evolver] Re: PEK Product

Thanks Dale, I will tune in!
 
I have only owned one yamaha and that was a DX-7...never had any problems with it...
 
Oh yes....I have 3 Clavia units...never any problems.... ..Love my Clavias..I will be getting the Nord Wave when it gets released!
 
I am staying away from the new Waldorfs though....too expensive for the capabilities they promise...and since I have the Q and Xtk...well I am sitting good!

Dale <dale@inquisitorbetr ayer.com> wrote:
Add Yamaha A5000, A4000 and A3000 to encoders with problems.
due to dust...
ION's are potentiometers, they fail .. OS update helped a bit to control ..
but it took 3 ION's on my side to get a unit stable to work .. even to this day
I still see it happen, a few twist and it's gone ...
 
Yamaha s-80 and p-60 etc.. they have encoders, but they seem real stable ...
 
PEK, it has not been a problem ... if it is there, I have not noticed it ... 
 
I tend to rate synths more like sound, then ease of use ... next "can I add to it?"
 
sound being my number one item, always looking for that unique sound I can use in my tracks ...
 
The PEK has a different sound from the rest of synths here. I have yet to capture it the same
on the DAW as I think the DAW isn't able to play it back ... 
DAW here is a motu 24 i and a presonus firebox ... 
 
well, PEK is welcomed here ... 
now to sort out my editors problems ... then I can really dig into it a bit further ... ;-)
 
Hey if you tune into http://www.harborou ghfm.co.uk/ right now, 2:00 pm PST 7 Apr 2007 or 10 PM UK time, 
to the Terry Hawke show, you might catch some of our tracks, Steve Hillman and Steve Ballard, more too ... ;-)
 
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ravi Ivan Sharma 
 
Every synth that I have had that has encoders, has had ones that eventuall flake out or start skipping, often earlier than wished. These include: uQ keyboard, Ensonic ASR-X, Elektron Monomachine, Machinedrum, Notron -- so far not with my 2 evolver desktops, PEK or MEK, but one day I am sure it will happen.
 
Why? Because encoders are inherently prone to dust and use simply because of the way they work. From a mission critical point of view they all suck. But they do have very nice benefits when used with synths, don't they; but if such were so great, then it follows that the reason less than half the synths out ever use them is that they have a higher failure rate than a regular potentiometer.
 
Rotary encoders are not cheap. Your basis to make the assertion that DS uses cheap parts based on your single experience on a synth with 70 encoders -- that you refuse to get fixed or send in--even though apparently your synth is still under warranty-- is simply not logical and based on all your other continuing grinding, seems more ill will.
 
But yes, I completely agree that it sucks big time that 2 encoders are flaky. I am sure Dave will fix them. But it still sucks to have to send things in. I had to send my machinedrum to sweden and that really sucked!
 
But put it into perspective.




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