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RE: [Suspected Spam] RE: [DSI Synths] Re: getting more out of the mono desktop evolver

2009-07-27 by Iain Bryden

> So you can have four patches on different MIDI channels with different
clock divide values and so on?

 

Yes.

 

Also, the editor software from Psicraft is a bit sketchy. I'd find that
patches would default to some blank state when I was editing them. This
contributed to making combo mode a really frustrating experience.

 

-- Iain

 

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From: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of massimo
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 2:19 PM
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Suspected Spam] RE: [DSI Synths] Re: getting more out of the
mono desktop evolver

 

  

Is that the only problem? That's actually not too bad.

Also sounds like something that could be sorted with an OS update. I
know DSI like to take their time with those though.

So you can have four patches on different MIDI channels with different
clock divide values and so on?



--- On Mon, 27/7/09, Iain Bryden <ibryden@...> wrote:


From: Iain Bryden <ibryden@...>
Subject: RE: [DSI Synths] Re: getting more out of the mono desktop
evolver
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 27 July, 2009, 3:17 PM

  

Sure Bill.

 

The PER manual states that Poly Evolvers used in combo mode are like
having four Mono Evolvers. This implies that we can assign four parts to
their own midi channel then make independent program changes on each
channel, just like every other multitimbral synth on the planet. This is
not what happens. When you send a program change from a sequencer to one
of the channels, the main patch changes and you are often taken out of
combo mode. The only way to use Combo mode with a song is to save a
combo patch with the four parts set to the programs you want. This is an
annoyance if you prefer to assign patch changes from a sequencer. You
may have a different methodology when creating music so it may not be a
problem for you.

 

-- Iain

 

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From: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:DSI_ Evolver@yahoogro
ups.com] On Behalf Of prof_lofi
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:23 PM
To: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [DSI Synths] Re: getting more out of the mono desktop evolver

 

  

Hi Iain,

Do you mind going into more detail about the prob's with how combo mode
was used? I'd really appreciate it as it's so hard to tell without
having one to mess around with.

Thanks,

Bill

--- In DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com, "Iain Bryden" <ibryden@... >
wrote:
>
> After buying an Evolver Desktop I went on to buy a Mono Evolver
Keyboard
> and loved it so much that I bought a Poly Evolver Rack. I sold the
Rack
> because Combo mode was so poorly implemented that I decided to get
other
> gear instead. I still have the EVO and the MEK.
> 
> 
> 
> Before I sold the PER I used it for a project. 
> 
> 
> 
> Check out "Henchmen Suite" (3rd piece down). Synth parts are almost
all
> Evolver. Percussion parts are from Spectrasonics Stylus RMX.
> 
> http://obelus. com/music/ film.asp <http://obelus.com/music/film.asp> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- Iain
> 
> 
> 
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> 
> From: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups.
com]
> On Behalf Of prof_lofi
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 6:39 AM
> To: DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [DSI Synths] Re: getting more out of the mono desktop evolver
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> thanks everyone for your posts...will be looking into this and
> considering new ideas...selling tons of gear (well, not tons but i
never
> sell anything) to buy new toys...thinking, in a while, about trying to
> find a poly evolver rack...i'm sure i'm amongst the 1000's that use
the
> genetic algorithms to begin building new patches, but i'd be really
> interested to hear some random genetic hits from a poly just to hear
how
> much more complicated they might be...my work is experimental, but
with
> a fairly heavy sound design element, so the poly is interesting in
that
> respect...no need for a keyboard though...has anyone made the jump and
> found it to be hugely rewarding, or just a bit more rewarding? <sigh>
> money!
> 
> bill
> 
> --- In DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com
> <mailto:DSI_ Evolver%40yahoog roups.com> , "Dale Kay" <dale@> wrote:
> >
> > sorry if this posts twice or more, yahoo likes to ignor my posts a
lot
> > 
> > I use a sub mixer for that.
> > 
> > here is my normal route for feed back in
> > synth to sub mixer
> > sub mixer channel to patch panel
> > patch panel to any effect, pedal and so on
> > output back to sub mixer
> > sub mixer back to synth(s) or to patch panel again to multiple
synths
> > 
> > I have several synths that can feedback in and use it many different
> ways
> > and I do not just use the output from the synth, I might effect it
in
> > various ways which
> > I need to watch the levels ... I often do not just work with one
synth
> but
> > several
> > and I often record each level (clean, effect one, effect two if in a
> chain)
> > as a separate track too to toy with in the mix
> > that is why I have 3 patch panels, I can do that at each stage
> > "think modular"
> > 
> > my end results are more often used with the tracks you hear at the
> links
> > below
> > never sure what one might call what I do ... ;-)
> > 
> > sub mixer I use is a Rolls RM 203, I have 2 of those
> > a 24 channel main mixer too, sub channels get tasked around as well
> > patch panels are AP , 3 of them, 24 ports each
> > effects? hard and soft, even the line 6 gear box DI, nada is not
toyed
> with
> > even a mike to a speaker then feed back in ...
> > 
> > some things that seem to work nice, having a 31 stereo band eq
> > or a good parametric, you can really then find the band you want to
> toy with
> > and filter out the rest
> > the bbe green screamer, the ADA flanger, the Roland V-wah ... etc
...
> > filter queen, killer eq (electrix)
> > 
> > PEK here and the SE P'08 ...
> > 
> > latest crazy things, using FM8 with them
> > 
> > dale
> > 
> > Inquisitor Betrayer
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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