maybe Dave only plays with one hand on the keys---- [but some players can use two...] yes, thanks for confirming the HUGE amount of available space in the PEK. What i dont understand is why so many people here are so righteously defending the paltry 4 voice design.I personally dont appreciate my notes dropping out of a chord, nor carrying extra equpiment. --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "em" <musiclists@...> wrote: > > For the first few years of owning my PEK I yearned for more voices. For my playing, 4 voices is not enough. If I use it as a 4 voice mono synth, fine its great. But as a poly synth, its basically not usable. So I emailed DSI asking about all the extra space in the PEK and if there was some way to put in another 4 voices. The answer was no. > > The claim was that most people don't need/want the extra voices and if they do, there is the PER. Like most of you, I see the extra space in the PEK as prime real estate for building in another voice board. > > About a month ago I got my hands on PER. Chaining with the PEK works great! Its amazing how seamless it is. But having that extra rack and cabling is a pain in the ass. > > Its possible to build in the board from the PER into the PEK but it would take a lot of work. At the moment, for me, its much less work to simply connect up the PER. But I will tell you, for me, that the PEK+PER combo completely transform the instrument into something playable! As I said, as a poly synth its severely crippled with only 4 voices. It makes me think, "What was Dave Smith thinking??" To me its like releasing a computer with no way to get files into or out of it. Adding a PER is like adding an optical writer to said computer! > > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "wasteking1" <wasteking1@> wrote: > > > > X+Y, > > the PEK is pretty much the average 61 key size---and is also suprisingly lightweight-- i put it in a basic keyboard case, which has a handle---no problem. its portable. > > So why dont you unscrew the 4 simple screws and open the lid and look inside--- its not going to hurt it-- > > see how much empty space is in that PEK--and you can see just how small the 4 voice PC board is (its clearly labeled) ....that is most of my point. > > you can easily fit another 4 voice pc board in it. why carry more crap ??????? > > > > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, X + Z = 0 <xpluszequalszero@> wrote: > > > > > > what i say is i don't see why you would say a pek is a portable > > > instrument, to me protable is at least easy bring along by foot or > > > traviling with train or a bus when touring, and hence if you use a car, > > > bet you have room for a per, you may walk a bit more to unload, maybe > > > you should consider a laptop if its all too much > > > > > > > > to-X+Z-- > > > > yes you can always carry more equipment ,and plug in more wires, and > > > > need more outlets, and buy more cases---- yes, that is certainly > > > > desireable. why just carry it all in one? how unprofessional.... > > > > > > > > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com > > > > <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>, X + Z = 0 > > > > <xpluszequalszero@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > easy portabillity, > > > > > if you can bring along a pek touring or playing live, i guess there is > > > > > still room in the car/van to bring along a per, its not that a pek fits > > > > > in a suitcase and easy bring a long on tour or something when traveling > > > > > with a bus or train etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even your dinosaur 80's synths have 6 voices, indeed. > > > > > > But do they have a hybrid osc generator, 4 lfo's, envelope > > > > generators, > > > > > > 4 4x16 step squencers, a complex modulation matrix, 3 syncable > > > > delays, > > > > > > feedback, hack (... should i go on...?). > > > > > > So yeah, it's short on polyphony - but don't compare it to your 80's > > > > > > dinosaur synths, since it beats them on all the other departments. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Thu, 3/11/10, wasteking1 /<wasteking1@>/* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: wasteking1 <wasteking1@> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [DSI Synths] DSI - "no to 4 voice PEK upgrade" > > > > > > To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 3:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a seperate expansion unit sounds fine in theory,maybe good for the > > > > > > hiding-in-the- studio-types but is of little live convienience, > > > > > > and totally kills easy portability- -- as i said before--LOOK > > > > > > INSIDE THE PEK--- its HALF EMPTY--- plenty of room for more voice > > > > > > circuits --- even on a modular plug-in/add on basis. (2 at a > > > > > > time?) even just 6 voices would keep me from having a dropout > > > > > > problem while simply playing one program with two hands.and > > > > > > certainly it limits what kind things you can do with partial > > > > > > 'unison' voice allocations. . Obviously DSI considered 8 fine for > > > > > > the CHEAPER Prophet---why not their 'flagship' model? Its a real > > > > > > shortcoming in the marketplace. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com > > > > <http://us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>>, > > > > > > "meatballfulton" <hubcapbrian@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSI_Evolver@ yahoogroups. com > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com > > > > <http://us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=DSI_Evolver%40yahoogroups.com>>, > > > > > > "wasteking1" <wasteking1@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > How come the PEK pot version could be so quickly adapted? > > > > > > > > how many people asked DSI for it or ws it just Dave's idea? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Based on all the complaints about encoders I've seen in Evo > > > > > > discussions, it must have been a LOT of people asking for it. Dave > > > > > > obviously likes the encoders (as do I). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How many people would like 8 voices???? (even my dinosaur 80's > > > > > > > > synths have 6) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Poly expansion leaves the option up to the end user, the people > > > > > > who want the extra voices can buy them. While it's not as > > > > > > convenient as having all 8 voices onboard the PEK, MEK and DEVO > > > > > > users can also make use of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've heard similar complaints about hooking up a Mopho keyboard > > > > > > to a Tetra, and the Mopho keyboard hasn't even been released yet!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > http://xpluszequalszero.blogspot.com/ > > > > <http://xpluszequalszero.blogspot.com/> > > > > > http://www.myspace.com/wravenveerendegebarstehoofden > > > > <http://www.myspace.com/wravenveerendegebarstehoofden> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://xpluszequalszero.blogspot.com/ > > > http://www.myspace.com/wravenveerendegebarstehoofden > > > > > >
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Re: [DSI Synths] DSI - "no to 4 voice PEK upgrade"
2010-03-11 by wasteking1