Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Wow J. I guess you have my work flow all sorts of figured out don'cha? Maybe I 
really don't want to use my computer in my setup. Maybe I would like to use my 
evolver, modular, 777, and a midi/cv converter and that's it. Maybe with that 
setup in mind I would like to use the evolver as the clock source. Maybe, just 
maybe just maybe, I'm using the evolver's sequencer to control my modular 
because the evolver has those super duper handy dandy modifiable clock dividers 
built right into it, and I can have it send out a standard clock and I can use 
its sequencer to pump out funky clock division trickery which was part of the 
sound I was going for at the time. Maybe you're just not familiar with what 
would make someone actually want to use the evolver's sequencer to sequence 
other instruments. I guess I could buy a P3 or a Cirkilon (sp?), but I really 
don't want to spend $1000+ on another piece of kit, especially during these 
times of economic uncertainty. 


And as for the tired and recycled quote goes, "In this day and age its what 
limits us, not enables us, that creates good music". Sorry dude, but that 
applies only within a given context. A guitar is what enables a guitarist to 
play guitar music. A percussion kit is what enables a percussionist to play.... 
percussion based music. Please. 


One last thing J, don't presume that I have hit some kind of creative roadblock 
because of these issues. As I've mentioned earlier in these series of threads is 
that ALL OF THESE ISSUES WERE DOCUMENTED AND PRESENTED TO DSI A LONG TIME AGO 
>>>> YEARS AGO!!!! If you read the whole thread you will see where the context 
for this discussion even came from.

Thanks,
Jim





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From: lesser_inc <j.doerck@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, October 17, 2010 5:42:55 PM
Subject: [DSI Synths] Re: DSI Evolution?

  

Let's face it. In this day and age its what limits us, not enables us, that 
creates good music. Seriously, you have NO OTHER WAY to create a sequence to 
send to outboard gear? Is it THAT difficult to recreate the bassline you 
programmed on the Evolver to send to another synth? I just don't believe it.

What DSI has going for it is that Dave has some sort of vision for his 
instruments. I don't feel he's ever just tried to rip off Moog or whatever. He 
builds things he wants to use. For the most part, I agree with his choices. 
Sure, there are things I wish the Evolver could do (at this point, mostly that 
my rotary encoders wouldn't jump), but what I respect is the insane amounts of 
flexibility already included in the modulation sources - for that matter that 
has always been included in Smith Products (Seq Circuits, DSI, Wavestation, 
whatever).

Yes, the Evolver is not a Fantom Workstation, nor is it a swiss army knife. It 
does what it does and I am thankful for it.

I'd rather Mr. Smith spend his time engineering a next generation synthesizer 
than patching the software for a synth thats basically a decade old.

j

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, James Elliott <johans121@...> wrote:
>
> I think it would go without saying that if a manufacturer were to open up the 
> code to the public then the company would not support the altered product. I 
> don't know of any software company that has, so why would we expect DSI to? I 
> think opening up the software to the public would be a great idea. I'm totally 

> with Tom in that I would be a DSI customer for 'life' if they did something 
>like 
>
> that. Hell, DSI could even make some spare change selling chips with the 
> original OS on it if people F'ed up their code so bad that they couldn't even 
> revert back to the original code base.
> 
> But whatever, I don't expect this to happen. This code is more than likely on 
> all of his products, so he wouldn't want his competitors stealing his 
> intellectual property.
> 
> -Jim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Stefan Trippler <doct@...>
> To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, October 16, 2010 5:57:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [DSI Synths] DSI Evolution?
> 
> 
> > In a synth world where it becomes increasingly difficult to differentiate 
> > your product from the next
> > guy's, open source software is one thing that could really set you apart. 
> > How about it, Dave?
> 
> This might indeed bring a few new customers. But most likely not enough to 
> cover the cost of the additional people for the manufacturer's support 
> department.
> 
> Or do you really think that customers wouldn't expect support from the 
> manufacturer for a third party OS or would not blame him for problems caused 
> by 3rd party OSs?
> 
> "Hey, Dave, OS 0.1 beta from well known list member X adds a lot of 
> fantastic features to the PEK. Unfortunately it causes my PEK to 
> occasionally freeze and sysex transfer to downgrade to an older OS was 
> promised only for version 0.2.
> X unfortunately doesn't reply to my mails atm, I think he is on holiday / 
> didn't pay his provider / is a little distracted after his divorce/his pet's 
> passing/his boyfriend's unexpected pregnancy / can't be bothered with bug 
> reports atm cause he's already developing another set of fantastic addons / 
> ...
> 
> So I thought that DSI could help for once. I suppose it takes only a few 
> minutes to recompile, interpret and debug his uncommented C++ code" ;)
> 
> Things like that have never happened in the past and will never happen in 
> the future.
> 

etc etc etc