Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Evolver made the cover of December EM. No real review though. Those 
will come later.

That was fast!

Any of you guys use Cubase? 

I find if I use its Inspector to set program and Bank Select, the
Evolver goes silent until a power-off. This is the source of my
problem noticed recently. If any of you use Cubase could you try it
too and verify?

Cheers

Paul

Hmm, it's weirder than I thought - seems only to happen with multiple
bank select / program changes from Cubase's Inspector (VST) and is
possibly related to "chase events". If I write the events into the
track, all is fine!

As Cubase SX doesn't have the ability to set different program changes
throughout different parts on a track with Inspector, I can't try it
with that....

Can't work it out. Will keep looking.... sorry to disturb you without
full facts...

Paul

I've had this happen to me with another synth, not the Evolver, and 
with Digital Performer, not Cubase...but perhaps it's related.

Have you tried sending it an All Notes Off command? Does that bring 
it back to life? My problem, if I remeber correctly, was that my 
sequencing software was sending a Note On msg with the Program 
Change, but not a Note Off.

I hope I understood your question correctly and this isn't something 
completely unrelated :)




--- In DSI_Evolver@y..., Paul Nagle <paul@s...> wrote:
> Hmm, it's weirder than I thought - seems only to happen with 
multiple
> bank select / program changes from Cubase's Inspector (VST) and is
> possibly related to "chase events". If I write the events into the
> track, all is fine!
> 
> As Cubase SX doesn't have the ability to set different program 
changes
> throughout different parts on a track with Inspector, I can't try it
> with that....
> 
> Can't work it out. Will keep looking.... sorry to disturb you 
without

> full facts...
> 
> Paul

On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 03:27:22 -0000, "jpyn8" <jp1@...> wrote:

>Have you tried sending it an All Notes Off command? Does that bring 
>it back to life? My problem, if I remeber correctly, was that my 
>sequencing software was sending a Note On msg with the Program 
>Change, but not a Note Off.

I tried that at the time but no result. However, I spent ages trying
to recreate the problem last night and the Evolver was just fine.

Unless I manage to reproduce the set of circumstances that caused my
problem I'll just call it a one off, albeit one that happened
twice....

Weird but no point worrying until it happens again.

Cheers
Paul

--- In DSI_Evolver@y..., Paul Nagle <paul@s...> wrote:
> Any of you guys use Cubase? 
> 
> I find if I use its Inspector to set program and Bank Select, the
> Evolver goes silent until a power-off. This is the source of my
> problem noticed recently. If any of you use Cubase could you try it
> too and verify?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Paul

I would let Dave know. There's a similar bug where if one adjusts mod 
1 source under certain conditions the evolver goes silent until power-
off. Dave's got that one fixed in the next version...as long as 
you're sure it didn't produce any sound under any conditions, that's 
not normal behavior, and he can probably isolate it and fix it.

Anyone know if the Evolver has a patch compare facility?

After extensive tweaking, it's sometimes hard to know if I've improved
a patch - or made it worse! Being able to compare would be great as,
with no patch names, it's not always easy choosing another patch to
overwrite before doing an a/b comparison. I looked in the manual but
didn't find one...

Paul

OK, the sun is shining and I should be outside or something...

Instead I wondered what it would be like to make a track entirely with
the Evolver. No external effects other than Cubase's reverb - this is
just multitracked direct into Cubase, sometimes using the internal
Evolver sequencer, sometimes just playing the beast, always tweaking.

It's no great piece of music but some of the sounds make me smile...

www.btinternet.com/~softroom/mp3/JustEvolver.mp3

Might be a laff. 

Paul

Hey Paul,
  I like it, Just curious how many tracks you used to create this. Also
you should send it in for Dave's sound sites.

Don


> 
> OK, the sun is shining and I should be outside or something...
> 
> Instead I wondered what it would be like to make a track 
> entirely with the Evolver. No external effects other than 
> Cubase's reverb - this is just multitracked direct into 
> Cubase, sometimes using the internal Evolver sequencer, 
> sometimes just playing the beast, always tweaking.
> 
> It's no great piece of music but some of the sounds make me smile...
> 
www.btinternet.com/~softroom/mp3/JustEvolver.mp3

Might be a laff. 

Paul

On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:24:56 -0600, "Don Gothard (dg)"
<gothard@...> wrote:

>Hey Paul,
>  I like it, Just curious how many tracks you used to create this. Also
>you should send it in for Dave's sound sites.

The first two layered sequences were done in stereo (so 4 tracks). Cos
I had the oscillators fading in and out by LFOs and the stereo sounded
cool. There were a remaining 4 mono tracks after that I think.

Paul

Nice little track! I like the remeniscent Pink Floyd "Welcome to the 
Machine" synth lead sound (all the way down to the fast vibrato at 
the tail). Evolver can sound pretty Moogy!


--- In DSI_Evolver@y..., Paul Nagle <paul@s...> wrote:
> OK, the sun is shining and I should be outside or something...
> 
> Instead I wondered what it would be like to make a track entirely 
with
> the Evolver. No external effects other than Cubase's reverb - this 
is
> just multitracked direct into Cubase, sometimes using the internal
> Evolver sequencer, sometimes just playing the beast, always 
tweaking.
> 
> It's no great piece of music but some of the sounds make me 
smile...

> 
> www.btinternet.com/~softroom/mp3/JustEvolver.mp3
> 
> Might be a laff. 
> 
> Paul