Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Dave is looking for a few good sound programmers to author some Poly 
Evolver presets, and asked me to post this request in the forums.  
The same text can be found on his News page at 
www.davesmithinstruments.com, and on the EX5Tech Evolver forum.  For 
anyone that's serious about this, I can promise that you won't be 
disappointed in the Poly!

Quote from Dave:
- - - - - - - - - - 
I need sound programmers! As I finalize the Poly Evolver for its 
April release, I need to fill in 512 Programs and 384 Combos. Anyone 
interested in making some sounds on a Poly, please send me an email. 
Here's the deal: you will get a Poly for 7 to 10 days if you can 
guarantee that you will have the time to really crank out some sounds 
(I've had problems with this in the past). The sounds need to be 
fully tweaked (tuned, all mods routed, etc.), and I need everything 
from the clean/simple analog sounds of the past to the 
wild/crazy/over-the-top sounds that the Evolver voice is so good at. 
As a dinky company, I don't have the budgets of the big companies for 
a team of programmers, but I can at least offer product discounts 
commensurate with the quality and quantity of programs produced.
- - - - - - - - - - 


Ski
www.ex5tech.com
EX5Tech Evolver forum:
http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23

please note that he currently only is looking for programmers in 
usa ... but to make sure ask him yourself

-p

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" <ex5tech@e...> 
wrote:
> Dave is looking for a few good sound programmers to author some 
Poly 
> Evolver presets, and asked me to post this request in the forums.  
> The same text can be found on his News page at 
> www.davesmithinstruments.com, and on the EX5Tech Evolver forum.  
For 
> anyone that's serious about this, I can promise that you won't be 
> disappointed in the Poly!
> 
> Quote from Dave:
> - - - - - - - - - - 
> I need sound programmers! As I finalize the Poly Evolver for its 
> April release, I need to fill in 512 Programs and 384 Combos. 
Anyone 
> interested in making some sounds on a Poly, please send me an 
email. 
> Here's the deal: you will get a Poly for 7 to 10 days if you can 
> guarantee that you will have the time to really crank out some 
sounds 
> (I've had problems with this in the past). The sounds need to be 
> fully tweaked (tuned, all mods routed, etc.), and I need everything 
> from the clean/simple analog sounds of the past to the 
> wild/crazy/over-the-top sounds that the Evolver voice is so good 
at. 
> As a dinky company, I don't have the budgets of the big companies 
for 

> a team of programmers, but I can at least offer product discounts 
> commensurate with the quality and quantity of programs produced.
> - - - - - - - - - - 
> 
> 
> Ski
> www.ex5tech.com
> EX5Tech Evolver forum:
> http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23

I sent in some samples, hopefully I'll get a shot.  If for no other 
reason than as a thanks, as the Evolver is one of those pieces of kit 
I've been kicked to the couch for spooning late at night...  ;-]

Oh, and as thanks for that whole MIDI thing that seems to be all the 
rage.  ;-]

On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 02:42 PM, phonophobie wrote:

> please note that he currently only is looking for programmers in
> usa ... but to make sure ask him yourself
>
> -p
>
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" <ex5tech@e...>
> wrote:
> > Dave is looking for a few good sound programmers to author some
> Poly
> > Evolver presets, and asked me to post this request in the forums. 
> > The same text can be found on his News page at
> > www.davesmithinstruments.com, and on the EX5Tech Evolver forum. 
> For
> > anyone that's serious about this, I can promise that you won't be
> > disappointed in the Poly!
> >
> > Quote from Dave:
> > - - - - - - - - - -
> > I need sound programmers! As I finalize the Poly Evolver for its
> > April release, I need to fill in 512 Programs and 384 Combos.
> Anyone
> > interested in making some sounds on a Poly, please send me an
> email.
> > Here's the deal: you will get a Poly for 7 to 10 days if you can
> > guarantee that you will have the time to really crank out some
> sounds
> > (I've had problems with this in the past). The sounds need to be
> > fully tweaked (tuned, all mods routed, etc.), and I need everything
> > from the clean/simple analog sounds of the past to the
> > wild/crazy/over-the-top sounds that the Evolver voice is so good
> at.
> > As a dinky company, I don't have the budgets of the big companies
> for
> > a team of programmers, but I can at least offer product discounts
> > commensurate with the quality and quantity of programs produced.
> > - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> >
> > Ski
> > www.ex5tech.com
> > EX5Tech Evolver forum:
> > http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23
>
>
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Actally i go to bed with it ;)
-phonphob


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Damon Menne <damon@m...> wrote:
> I sent in some samples, hopefully I'll get a shot.  If for no other 
> reason than as a thanks, as the Evolver is one of those pieces of 
kit 
> I've been kicked to the couch for spooning late at night...  ;-]
> 
> Oh, and as thanks for that whole MIDI thing that seems to be all 
the 
> rage.  ;-]
> 
> On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 02:42 PM, phonophobie wrote:
> 
> > please note that he currently only is looking for programmers in
> > usa ... but to make sure ask him yourself
> >
> > -p
> >
> > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" <ex5tech@e...>
> > wrote:
> > > Dave is looking for a few good sound programmers to author some
> > Poly
> > > Evolver presets, and asked me to post this request in the 
forums. 
> > > The same text can be found on his News page at
> > > www.davesmithinstruments.com, and on the EX5Tech Evolver forum. 
> > For
> > > anyone that's serious about this, I can promise that you won't 
be
> > > disappointed in the Poly!
> > >
> > > Quote from Dave:
> > > - - - - - - - - - -
> > > I need sound programmers! As I finalize the Poly Evolver for its
> > > April release, I need to fill in 512 Programs and 384 Combos.
> > Anyone
> > > interested in making some sounds on a Poly, please send me an
> > email.
> > > Here's the deal: you will get a Poly for 7 to 10 days if you can
> > > guarantee that you will have the time to really crank out some
> > sounds
> > > (I've had problems with this in the past). The sounds need to be
> > > fully tweaked (tuned, all mods routed, etc.), and I need 
everything
> > > from the clean/simple analog sounds of the past to the
> > > wild/crazy/over-the-top sounds that the Evolver voice is so good
> > at.
> > > As a dinky company, I don't have the budgets of the big 
companies
> > for
> > > a team of programmers, but I can at least offer product 
discounts
> > > commensurate with the quality and quantity of programs produced.
> > > - - - - - - - - - -
> > >
> > >
> > > Ski
> > > www.ex5tech.com
> > > EX5Tech Evolver forum:
> > > http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23
> >
> >
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I'm sure he wouldn't ship one to Egypt... 

I'd even take a week off work to program a poly evolver

I'm in the process (somewhat exhilarating) of replenishing my studio after
having had to sell off almost everything during an extended period of
unemployment awhile back...

I got an evolver a couple of weeks ago, and have found it to be one of the
funnest synths I've ever played, an experience that probably a few of you
can identify with.

yesterday I was in Robotspeak in S.F. , and they had a Perfourmer and the
drum machine (forget name) by Vermona. These are nice toys, definitely - I
was especially drawn to the Perfourmer, which seems like a particularly
unique synth - lacking in programming capability where you usually find it,
but having some unique flexibilities. But as I was testing these out, I
started noticing that they had an evolver lurking close by, and I started
realizing that I really wanted a second one more than I wanted either of
these (might not have gotten to that point if you could save patch memory on
the Vermona synths).

This was last night - I'm just scratching the surface at this point - spent
too much time last night trying to figure out how to use the Poly Chain mode
while hooked up to Logic.  I ran into the following issues - I'll mention
them in case it might save someone some time in the future, and also in case
anyone wants to make fun of me. One thing I didn't keep straight initially
was that, once you have the synths hooked up correctly, there are 2
important settings that can influence your mental condition, Poly Chain
mode, and the MIDI xmit.  What happens (I think this is what was happening,
it's all a blur now, since I was drinking Chimay to help me think more
clearly) - you have MIDI Xmit (and receive on the 2nd evolver) set to either
xmit parameters or All (which seem like a reasonable setting if you want
your knob turns to register on both units), and you change the Poly Chain
mode to All or notes, then a MIDI feedback loop can form between the
Evolvers and Logic (or other sequencer), since the poly chain mode setting
gets sent to the second evolver. This was driving me crazy for awhile.

Perhaps there's something that I'm missing (hope so), but I'd like to see
this capability made a little more user friendly somehow.

Gene

On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:18:49AM -0800, Gene Schwartz wrote:
> you have MIDI Xmit (and receive on the 2nd evolver) set to either
> xmit parameters or All (which seem like a reasonable setting if you want
> your knob turns to register on both units), and you change the Poly Chain
> mode to All or notes, then a MIDI feedback loop can form between the
> Evolvers and Logic (or other sequencer), since the poly chain mode setting
> gets sent to the second evolver. This was driving me crazy for awhile.

I suppose you could argue that poly-chain is a `local' setting, and that
evolvers should ignore incoming poly-chain changes, but OTOH for those
(rich) people that are chaining six evolvers, the current behavior could be
a lot more convenient.

I think in general if you're constructing a midi loop through a sequencer
like that you've simply got to be careful though, because there are lots of
potential problems like this; obviously once you realize the issue, it's
simple enough to fix, either by filtering in the sequencer, or just
manually turning off poly-chain in the second evolver.

-Miles
-- 
80% of success is just showing up.  --Woody Allen

From: Miles Bader <miles@...>
Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:02:46 -0500
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Evolver] Couldn't stop myself - bought a second evolver


On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:18:49AM -0800, Gene Schwartz wrote:
> you have MIDI Xmit (and receive on the 2nd evolver) set to either
> xmit parameters or All (which seem like a reasonable setting if you want
> your knob turns to register on both units), and you change the Poly Chain
> mode to All or notes, then a MIDI feedback loop can form between the
> Evolvers and Logic (or other sequencer), since the poly chain mode setting
> gets sent to the second evolver. This was driving me crazy for awhile.

I suppose you could argue that poly-chain is a `local' setting, and that
evolvers should ignore incoming poly-chain changes, but OTOH for those
(rich) people that are chaining six evolvers, the current behavior could be
a lot more convenient.

I think in general if you're constructing a midi loop through a sequencer
like that you've simply got to be careful though, because there are lots of
potential problems like this; obviously once you realize the issue, it's
simple enough to fix, either by filtering in the sequencer, or just
manually turning off poly-chain in the second evolver.

-Miles
-- 
80% of success is just showing up.  --Woody Allen

I don't necessarily disagree with any of this, but given that sometimes you
would want this behavior, and sometimes you wouldn't, I don't see why there
couldn't be, say, a MIDI transmit mode that excluded MIDI settings - and/or
a MIDI receive mode that excluded them. When would you ever want the last
evolver in a chain to have the Poly Chain on?

Definitely there are things that one 'should' remember when operating a
synth, but part of the 'ease of use' factor is to try to eliminate the
danger that comes from being absent minded. Analogously to the above, I'd
like to see a setting that locked the bank/program number. Like you say
above - it's easy enough to remember to save, but it's also really easy on
the evolver (at least I find it so) to forget in the heat of the moment
that, for instance, you don't have the sequencer button pushed, and you lose
all your changes because you've accidentally turned the program knob.

The Evolver is not only a wonderful synthesizer, but a multipurpose unit.
Today I used it to record my Electroencephalogramm when I was in saturday
evening meditation mode:

http://www.trippler.net/files/mp3/evoeeg.mp3      ;-))

Regards
Stefan

Dude, warn people on volume when sending shit at that level.  I almost 
lost a monitor off of that mp3.

On Jan 31, 2004, at 5:59 PM, trippler@t-online.de wrote:

> The Evolver is not only a wonderful synthesizer, but a multipurpose 
> unit.
> Today I used it to record my Electroencephalogramm when I was in 
> saturday
> evening meditation mode:
>
> http://www.trippler.net/files/mp3/evoeeg.mp3      ;-))
>
> Regards
> Stefan
>
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Oops, sorry :-(

I thought people knew that Evolver mp3s in general are dangerous for
speakers...

Stefan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "damon" <damon@...>
To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Evolver] Couldn't stop myself - bought a second evolver


Dude, warn people on volume when sending shit at that level.  I almost
lost a monitor off of that mp3.

On Jan 31, 2004, at 5:59 PM, trippler@... wrote:

> The Evolver is not only a wonderful synthesizer, but a multipurpose
> unit.
> Today I used it to record my Electroencephalogramm when I was in
> saturday
> evening meditation mode:
>
> http://www.trippler.net/files/mp3/evoeeg.mp3 ;-))
>
> Regards
> Stefan
>
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> On Jan 31, 2004, at 5:59 PM, trippler@... wrote:
> 
> > The Evolver is not only a wonderful synthesizer, but a multipurpose
> > unit.
> > Today I used it to record my Electroencephalogramm when I was in
> > saturday
> > evening meditation mode:


Great Track!    I get my Evolver next week.  I can't wait!

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, damon <damon@m...> wrote:
> Dude, warn people on volume when sending shit at that level.  I 
almost 
> lost a monitor off of that mp3.

And I think my cat lost one of it's 9 lives!!! She was curled up 
sleeping peacefully... then I played this mp3. It took me 5 minutes 
to pry her claws from the ceiling!! LOL! 

Sayer

My Speakers love this one! (Adam P-11) Stefan, this is a nice one,
specially i like the last minute...
Wow, i have to wait until Dave releasing the Poly Evo, mhm, together
with Evolver a five - voice - prophet - return - and - much - more -
setup!!!!
also a Stefan

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, trippler@t... wrote:

> Oops, sorry :-(
> 
> I thought people knew that Evolver mp3s in general are dangerous for
> speakers...
> 
> Stefan
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "damon" <damon@m...>
> To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Evolver] Couldn't stop myself - bought a second evolver
> 
> 
> Dude, warn people on volume when sending shit at that level.  I almost
> lost a monitor off of that mp3.
> 
> On Jan 31, 2004, at 5:59 PM, trippler@t... wrote:
> 
> > The Evolver is not only a wonderful synthesizer, but a multipurpose
> > unit.
> > Today I used it to record my Electroencephalogramm when I was in
> > saturday
> > evening meditation mode:
> >
> > http://www.trippler.net/files/mp3/evoeeg.mp3 ;-))
> >
> > Regards
> > Stefan
> >
> >
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on 1/31/04 11:18 AM, Gene Schwartz wrote:

> (I think this is what was happening, it's all a blur
> now, since I was drinking Chimay to help me think
> more clearly)...

LOL!!

a pint of Bleu, and I don't think I could be bothered
to mess with MIDI! =)


cheers,
aeon

> a pint of Bleu,

A pint of Blue? Labatt Blue? Are you in Quebec?

on 2/2/04 3:59 PM, dhamaryder wrote:

> 
>> a pint of Bleu,
> 
> A pint of Blue? Labatt Blue? Are you in Quebec?

not Blue...Bleu...as in Chimay, as the original poster
said!


cheers,
aeon

I want something else, cash is low, I'm going to get the Polyevolver
eventually anyway...

make me an offer. The only thing I lack is the box (though I might still be
able to get it) - I left the box at the store, and just put it in my
backpack. About a week old.

Thanks,
Gene

> Quote from Dave:
> As a dinky company, I don't have the budgets of the big companies 
for 
> a team of programmers, but I can at least offer product discounts 
> commensurate with the quality and quantity of programs produced.

Hello,

I'm new to the list (evolver in the mail, here tomorrow?!), so 
forgive me if I tread on covered territory.

What elektron (another dinky company) did with the monomachine is to 
pre-release it for beta-testing and patch programming for 25% off 
list.  This way, they had lots of hands/man hours reporting bugs and 
tweaking complex patches.  I only had time to create and send in one 
multi-patch, but it was accepted.  I also submitted a slew of bug 
reports, which were all fixed.  Dave should consider selling 20-50 
somewhat discounted poly's for patch creation... but it really 
depends on his schedule, which I doubt can tolerate a month or two 
for patches to start coming in.

Really looking forward to sequencing the evolver with my 
monomachine!  A match made in mono-heaven?

-gerald

hi gene,

i just joined the list (just now), because i'm looking to get an 
evolver to use with my wind synth rig (i love my microkorg, but i 
just don't need the kbd, and i think the evolver will sound better 
in any case).  audiomidi seems to sell them for $479, i'd be willing 
to spend $450 (hopefully including shipping).  let me know if this 
might work for you.

deknow

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Gene Schwartz <implode7@p...> 
wrote:
> I want something else, cash is low, I'm going to get the 
Polyevolver
> eventually anyway...
> 
> make me an offer. The only thing I lack is the box (though I might 
still be
> able to get it) - I left the box at the store, and just put it in 
my

> backpack. About a week old.
> 
> Thanks,
> Gene

hi there...

my shift button seems to have gone slack, likely from excessive noodling
of FM amounts, heh. does anyone know e.g. a mouser part number for a
replacement? are they relatively easy to remove and install? i do have
electronics repair experience, i just don't want to muck around in there
if the button is buried under four PCBs or something...

thanks...

bleep.
out.

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On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 01:56:22PM -0600, blip wrote:
>    my  shift  button  seems  to  have  gone  slack, likely from excessive
>    noodling
>    of FM amounts, heh.

it seems like my start/stop button is not responding the way it used to
either. which is weird, because I didn't notice it until after a period
of not using the Evolver (thanks to the arrival of the Monomachine! :-).
but now I have to press it two or three times in order to get it to
work. anyone else have these problems? the machine's less than a year
old, so I'm wondering whether it would be worthwhile to talk to Dave
about it or just fix it myself.

Joe

Blip and Joe - 

I would definitely contact Dave prior to making any purchases or 
performing any surgery yourselves, especially if your Evolvers are 
still under warranty.  From what I've seen, Dave has always provided 
extremely good service to anyone needing it.  Plus, if there are 
problems with the buttons, I'm sure he'll want to know about it;  if 
the problems were frequent, he might want to start using a different 
supplier.

Even if your Evolvers are out of warranty, I'd contact Dave first.  
At a bare minimum, he'd be able to tell you where to get exact 
replacement parts, but I'm sure he'd go farther than that to help you.


Ski
www.ex5tech.com
EX5Tech Evolver forum:
http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Joe <jmelnyk@c...> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 01:56:22PM -0600, blip wrote:
> >    my  shift  button  seems  to  have  gone  slack, likely from 
excessive
> >    noodling
> >    of FM amounts, heh.
> 
> it seems like my start/stop button is not responding the way it 
used to
> either. which is weird, because I didn't notice it until after a 
period
> of not using the Evolver (thanks to the arrival of the 
Monomachine! :-).
> but now I have to press it two or three times in order to get it to
> work. anyone else have these problems? the machine's less than a 
year

> old, so I'm wondering whether it would be worthwhile to talk to Dave
> about it or just fix it myself.
> 
> Joe

so, which of these wires on the power supply is the neutral one?

thanks.

-- 
yours,
niall.
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