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Re: [Evolver] Re: Reality

Re: [Evolver] Re: Reality

2002-12-06 by Ravi Sharma

Anyway that all sounds great.

I was also thinking on the other hand you might simply get more samples if you held a contest that required at least a single patch with the required multisamples, along with the commensurate and irrevocable full license to you. Then you could either draw out of a hat and award the prizes, or you could set up a judging scheme. (probably random drawing is best). This way, many might participate, also each "entry" would constitute another chance to win the prizes and you need not worry about any revoked licenses, since the license is required for entry, and since the entry is not so huge, i.e., I could enter with a single patch and a few multisamples, then most would not feel they were "working" per se . . . etc. Otherwise what is down is cool.

ravi



>From: "DMidiot"
>Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Evolver] Re: Reality
>Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:18:49 -0000
>
>--- In DSI_Evolver@y..., "Ravi Ivan Sharma" wrote:
> > Cool! Fair is fun!
>
>Lets keep this in mind :)
>
> > But some clarification still necessary:
> >
> > 1. In regard to the exchange offer for the copies of Reality, how
>many samples will you require?
>
>Whatever you would feel is appropriate. Be an artist and put your
>best foot forward I guess. 'Evolver' is not your normal sampling
>session. I would think that something like 6 samples per patch and
>between 10 and 20 patches. The more the merrier
> >
> > 2. In regard to the samples for SurReal offer, again, how many
>samples do you want?
>
>Same as above and say 4 samples per patch and between 4 and 10
>patches.
> >
> > 3. In either case, the deal in regard to a full release to you by
>the provider for the samples provided should only remain effective if
>you indeed decide to give the software to the provider. That is, if,
>for example, I provide you with a CD full of samples and a release,
>if you rejected my samples and didn't give me software in return
>(which is your choice) then the release would be void. Fair right?
>
>Of course, but lets not get lawyers involved :) Lets establish the
>resons for rejecting the submission.
>
>1. It sounds like any of the toy SoftSynths out there.
>2. It sounds like factory patches from old Hardware Synths.
>3. It sounds like you have never recorded anything before.
>
>If for some reason I reject it I will discuss with you why and will
>send you SurReal. My guess is you would probably have to put more
>effort into submitting something that I would reject, than something
>that will blow me away.
>
>
> > 4. What about credit?
>
>Reality can put the credits right in the Bankset. Your name, links
>etc would be front and centre. We also have something called
>SeerScene coming which could be used for establishing more web
>presence for you.
>
> >
> > Other than those minor things, without spending any time wondering
>whether the value of software is commensurate with the skill and time
>required for the samples (I am sure it is and if it isn't, throwing
>in some credit would easily fill the void), this sounds like a good
>and fair offer!
>
>Um, Reality is one of the best synth/samplers ever made. Hardware or
>Software. SurReal is it's little brother that plays back Reality
>created banksets. Same synth engine.
>
> >
> > Ravi
> >
> > p.s. In regard to your last comment about Dave. Does he have
>anything to do with your company anymore?
>
>Dave has no relation with SeerMusic Systems. I have simply licensed
>all the apps, code, names, etc. Reality is in my mind still Dave's
>baby, I'm just babysitting and updating it for the forseeable future.
>
>This is all fine with Dave and he would be interested in hearing how
>it turns out.
>
>Best,
>Ian
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: DMidiot
> > To: DSI_Evolver@y...
> > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Evolver] Reality
> >
> >
> > --- In DSI_Evolver@y..., "Ravi Sharma" wrote:
> > > >
> >
> > No problem. How is this?
> >
> > Send me a CD of mapped (and Looped?) samples presented in a
> > professional manner that I can use, and use as I see fit, no
>strings
> > attached, and I will send you a reg'd Reality.
> >
> > Email me samples as above (3 x 10 MB's min. ) and I'll give you a
> > downloadable Reg'd version of SurReal.
> >
> > I'll offer 3 Reality's for now and as many SurReals as required.
>So
> > if your interested in sending me a CD indicate it here. First
>come
> > first serve. Submissions by Mid January.
> >
> > Samples should be 44k Stereo, roughly 4 to 20 seconds long. Try
>and
> > get an original starting pitch :)
> >
> > I have talked with Dave about getting samples for promotion, but
>not
> > like this. He may want to veto this for now.
> >
> > Keep this fun.
> >
> > Best,
> > Ian
> > www.seermusic.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > DSI_Evolver-unsubscribe@y...
> >
> >
> >
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>Service.
>

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[Evolver] Re: Reality

2002-12-06 by DMidiot

--- In DSI_Evolver@y..., "Ravi Sharma" <noision1@h...> wrote:
> 

Actually a contest for sounds is pretty difficult to judge. I 
originally hoped that people here would just go "great here is a 
patch or 2 that I made, enjoy".

Whatever works for those interested is fine by me.

Best,
Ian

Re: [Evolver] Re: Reality

2002-12-07 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

That is true about judging. That is why I mentioned a "draw" type contest, with each submission to you with license equalling one ballot, etc. Anyway this is your gig, these were just suggestions.
Ravi
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----- Original Message -----
From: DMidiot
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 5:38 PM
Subject: [Evolver] Re: Reality

--- In DSI_Evolver@y..., "Ravi Sharma" <noision1@h...> wrote:
>

Actually a contest for sounds is pretty difficult to judge. I
originally hoped that people here would just go "great here is a
patch or 2 that I made, enjoy".

Whatever works for those interested is fine by me.

Best,
Ian




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[Evolver] Re: Reality

2002-12-07 by DMidiot <iangrant442@hotmail.com>

Sorry I missed the draw concept in your last post. For some reason 
replying didn't give me you post as a reference and I only 
remembered 'contest'. I've been thru a few of those with SeerMusic 
and it isn't a great experience to tell someone that this is better 
than that.

The Draw idea is cool. I'll give one Reality away on a random basis 
at the end of the year. The other offers still stand. 

Now if only someone besides Ravi would indicate some interest :)

As I stated in the first post Evolver is the SeerMusic team's bonus 
once we get V2 of Reality out next year.

Best,
Ian 


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma" 
<noision1@h...> wrote:
> That is true about judging. That is why I mentioned a "draw" type 
contest, with each submission to you with license equalling one 
ballot, etc. Anyway this is your gig, these were just suggestions.
> 
> Ravi
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: DMidiot 
>   To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 5:38 PM
>   Subject: [Evolver] Re: Reality
> 
> 
>   --- In DSI_Evolver@y..., "Ravi Sharma" <noision1@h...> wrote:
>   > 
> 
>   Actually a contest for sounds is pretty difficult to judge. I 
>   originally hoped that people here would just go "great here is a 
>   patch or 2 that I made, enjoy".
> 
>   Whatever works for those interested is fine by me.
> 
>   Best,
>   Ian
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [Evolver] Re: Reality

2002-12-07 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

All you need now is a webpage describing it all, and hopefully a few plugs for the offer/contest on the big music websites . . .
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:04 AM
Subject: [Evolver] Re: Reality

Sorry I missed the draw concept in your last post. For some reason
replying didn't give me you post as a reference and I only
remembered 'contest'. I've been thru a few of those with SeerMusic
and it isn't a great experience to tell someone that this is better
than that.

The Draw idea is cool. I'll give one Reality away on a random basis
at the end of the year. The other offers still stand.

Now if only someone besides Ravi would indicate some interest :)

As I stated in the first post Evolver is the SeerMusic team's bonus
once we get V2 of Reality out next year.

Best,
Ian


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma"
wrote:
> That is true about judging. That is why I mentioned a "draw" type
contest, with each submission to you with license equalling one
ballot, etc. Anyway this is your gig, these were just suggestions.
>
> Ravi
> ; ----- Original Message -----
> From: DMidiot
> To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> ; Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 5:38 PM
> Subject: [Evolver] Re: Reality
>
>
> --- In DSI_Evolver@y..., "Ravi Sharma" wrote:
> >
>
> Actually a contest for sounds is pretty difficult to judge. I
> originally hoped that people here would just go "great here is a
> patch or 2 that I made, enjoy".
>
> Whatever works for those interested is fine by me.
>
> Best,
>; Ian
>
>
>
>
> ; To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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>
>
>
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[Evolver] Re: Reality

2002-12-07 by DMidiot <iangrant442@hotmail.com>

If we had the time for all of that, I would just do the samples 
myself :)

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma" 
<noision1@h...> wrote:
> All you need now is a webpage describing it all, and hopefully a 
few plugs for the offer/contest on the big music websites . . . 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: DMidiot <iangrant442@h...> 
>   To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:04 AM
>   Subject: [Evolver] Re: Reality
> 
> 
>   Sorry I missed the draw concept in your last post. For some 
reason 
>   replying didn't give me you post as a reference and I only 
>   remembered 'contest'. I've been thru a few of those with 
SeerMusic 
>   and it isn't a great experience to tell someone that this is 
better 
>   than that.
> 
>   The Draw idea is cool. I'll give one Reality away on a random 
basis 
>   at the end of the year. The other offers still stand. 
> 
>   Now if only someone besides Ravi would indicate some interest :)
> 
>   As I stated in the first post Evolver is the SeerMusic team's 
bonus 
>   once we get V2 of Reality out next year.
> 
>   Best,
>   Ian 
> 
> 
>   --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma" 
>   <noision1@h...> wrote:
>   > That is true about judging. That is why I mentioned a "draw" 
type 
>   contest, with each submission to you with license equalling one 
>   ballot, etc. Anyway this is your gig, these were just suggestions.
>   > 
>   > Ravi
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: DMidiot 
>   >   To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com 
>   >   Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 5:38 PM
>   >   Subject: [Evolver] Re: Reality
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   --- In DSI_Evolver@y..., "Ravi Sharma" <noision1@h...> wrote:
>   >   > 
>   > 
>   >   Actually a contest for sounds is pretty difficult to judge. I 
>   >   originally hoped that people here would just go "great here 
is a 
>   >   patch or 2 that I made, enjoy".
>   > 
>   >   Whatever works for those interested is fine by me.
>   > 
>   >   Best,
>   >   Ian
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
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