Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Hello, Everyone,

I'm just now trying to setup the Edirol PCR-30 for use with the Evolver, so I can map 
its knobs and sliders to some of the Evolvers parameters.  I am having a problem 
however, finding the section in the manual which explains which control change 
values correspond to evolver parameters. I looked at the section - MIDI 
Implementations and it seemed to me that there was no mention of cc's.  Perhaps it is 
not possible to use cc values only sysex (of which I am not familiar at all)?  

Any help would be kindly appreciated,

Stephan

There are CC's ,  but there are only a few.  Check under Received Controller
Messages on page 44.

You have pretty much Breath, Foot, and Mod Wheel.

-----Original Message-----
From: deranka [mailto:ralescu@...] 
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 7:49 PM
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Evolver] Setting up Edirol PCR-30 for use with evolver?

Hello, Everyone,

I'm just now trying to setup the Edirol PCR-30 for use with the Evolver, so
I can map 
its knobs and sliders to some of the Evolvers parameters.  I am having a
problem 
however, finding the section in the manual which explains which control
change 
values correspond to evolver parameters. I looked at the section - MIDI 
Implementations and it seemed to me that there was no mention of cc's.
Perhaps it is 
not possible to use cc values only sysex (of which I am not familiar at
all)?  

Any help would be kindly appreciated,

Stephan




 
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Thats what i want to know also. Please can anyone double-confirm that
the evolver has no CC support beside the standarts like mod wheel,foot
etc.

It seems very unusal to a new synth like evo, that it doesn´t support
CC editing  

And how can someone setup a controler (like the edirol) to tweak evo
parameters

sysex? = no idea!




phono

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "deranka" <ralescu@y...> wrote:
> Hello, Everyone,
> 
> I'm just now trying to setup the Edirol PCR-30 for use with the
Evolver, so I can map 
> its knobs and sliders to some of the Evolvers parameters.  I am
having a problem 
> however, finding the section in the manual which explains which
control change 
> values correspond to evolver parameters. I looked at the section - MIDI 
> Implementations and it seemed to me that there was no mention of
cc's.  Perhaps it is 
> not possible to use cc values only sysex (of which I am not familiar
at all)?  

> 
> Any help would be kindly appreciated,
> 
> Stephan

No,  there are really no more CC's. I found this weird as well. I wrote to
Dave and he said there MAY be additional assignable CC's as mod sources in a
future OS update.

Cunbase VST uses something called Mixer Maps that you can program sysex to
midi and vice-versa.  I actually used it for my Juno-106 which transmits
sysex.  I wonder if there is a 3rd party app out there... 

-----Original Message-----
From: phonophobie [mailto:sidstation@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 6:58 AM
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Evolver] Re: Setting up Edirol PCR-30 for use with evolver?

Thats what i want to know also. Please can anyone double-confirm that
the evolver has no CC support beside the standarts like mod wheel,foot
etc.

It seems very unusal to a new synth like evo, that it doesn´t support
CC editing  

And how can someone setup a controler (like the edirol) to tweak evo
parameters

sysex? = no idea!



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I think we may see improvements here as  to me and others Dave Smith knows
there is significant interest in further CCs and has indicated that it may
appear in a future update. I've even specifically requested CCs I would like
to see, namely 16,17,18, 80 and 81 which would specifically open the evolver
up to yamaha windcontrollers . If you have a particularlar need mailing him
and telling him would be a good idea.

Richard

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "phonophobie" <sidstation@...>
To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 12:58 PM
Subject: [Evolver] Re: Setting up Edirol PCR-30 for use with evolver?


Thats what i want to know also. Please can anyone double-confirm that
the evolver has no CC support beside the standarts like mod wheel,foot
etc.

It seems very unusal to a new synth like evo, that it doesn4t support
CC editing

And how can someone setup a controler (like the edirol) to tweak evo
parameters

sysex? = no idea!




phono

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "deranka" <ralescu@y...> wrote:
> Hello, Everyone,
>
> I'm just now trying to setup the Edirol PCR-30 for use with the
Evolver, so I can map
> its knobs and sliders to some of the Evolvers parameters.  I am
having a problem
> however, finding the section in the manual which explains which
control change
> values correspond to evolver parameters. I looked at the section - MIDI
> Implementations and it seemed to me that there was no mention of
cc's.  Perhaps it is
> not possible to use cc values only sysex (of which I am not familiar
at all)?
>
> Any help would be kindly appreciated,
>
> Stephan




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I wonder if midi-ox can convert CC's to sysex and vice versa. I
haven't had the need to try (I don't have an evolver), but it's been
useful in doing a lot of other remapping tasks. If not, one could
always program something in keykit...

Austin

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Krueger" <rkr1@t...> wrote:
> No,  there are really no more CC's. I found this weird as well. I
wrote to
> Dave and he said there MAY be additional assignable CC's as mod
sources in a
> future OS update.
> 
> Cunbase VST uses something called Mixer Maps that you can program
sysex to

> midi and vice-versa.  I actually used it for my Juno-106 which transmits
> sysex.  I wonder if there is a 3rd party app out there... 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phonophobie [mailto:sidstation@h...] 
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 6:58 AM
> To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Evolver] Re: Setting up Edirol PCR-30 for use with evolver?
> 
> Thats what i want to know also. Please can anyone double-confirm that
> the evolver has no CC support beside the standarts like mod wheel,foot
> etc.
> 
> It seems very unusal to a new synth like evo, that it doesn´t support
> CC editing  
> 
> And how can someone setup a controler (like the edirol) to tweak evo
> parameters
> 
> sysex? = no idea!
> 
> 
> 
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I have the PCR-50 as well, which claims to support SYSEX messages. I 
have no understanding of how SYSEX works, but took a look at the 
PCR's editor & Evo's SYSEX commands, in an attempt to create a 
control map for the Evolver.  Anyway, it really looked like chinese 
to me, and I couldn't see how it could work.

Anyway, was I incorrect in my assumption that the PCR could control 
the Evo parameters via SYSEX?  Sorry if this question is basic for 
some! 

Rick   

          

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Krueger" <rkr1@t...> 
wrote:
> No,  there are really no more CC's. I found this weird as well. I 
wrote to
> Dave and he said there MAY be additional assignable CC's as mod 
sources in a
> future OS update.
> 
> Cunbase VST uses something called Mixer Maps that you can program 
sysex to
> midi and vice-versa.  I actually used it for my Juno-106 which 
transmits
> sysex.  I wonder if there is a 3rd party app out there... 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phonophobie [mailto:sidstation@h...] 
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 6:58 AM
> To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Evolver] Re: Setting up Edirol PCR-30 for use with 
evolver?
> 
> Thats what i want to know also. Please can anyone double-confirm 
that
> the evolver has no CC support beside the standarts like mod 
wheel,foot
> etc.
> 
> It seems very unusal to a new synth like evo, that it doesn´t 
support

> CC editing  
> 
> And how can someone setup a controler (like the edirol) to tweak evo
> parameters
> 
> sysex? = no idea!
> 
> 
> 
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http://www.bome.com/midi/

I haven't used the program yet, but this seems to be able to do exactly what
we are asking.  I just got my PCR-80 delivered today in fact.  My goal
tonight is to get this sucker programmed and the Evolver bending to it's
will. 

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