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Poly keyboard video at sonicstate

RE: [Evolver] Poly keyboard video at sonicstate

2005-01-25 by Robert Krueger

Sounds like some Mr Trippler patches on that video :) 
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Re: [Evolver] Poly keyboard video at sonicstate

2005-01-25 by trippler@t-online.de

From another forum:

>Can someone PLEASE post some "normal" analogue sounds from the PolyEvolver? 
>I would like to hear some Classic String, Brass, Saw, Square sounds, etc. 
>All of the MP3s sound like Nine Inch Nails demos. <

Ignorant, pffft    :p     ;-)

Stefan

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RE: [Evolver] Poly keyboard video at sonicstate

2005-01-25 by Robert Krueger

Jeez,  give me a break.....

It's pretty much a prophet with a thousand more times of capability.... 
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From another forum:

>Can someone PLEASE post some "normal" analogue sounds from the PolyEvolver?

>I would like to hear some Classic String, Brass, Saw, Square sounds, etc. 
>All of the MP3s sound like Nine Inch Nails demos. <

Ignorant, pffft    :p     ;-)

Stefan

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> Sounds like some Mr Trippler patches on that video :)
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Re: Poly keyboard video at sonicstate

2005-01-27 by Andrea Toni

Hello ppl,

i am sorry to be the bad one but ....

-- kbd aftertouch ? or only vel ?  is it a Fatar or .. ?

-- knobs or encoder ? they look very cheap too me ! at least in the pix
   and i really dont like the shape of the knobs.

-- Midi CCs ?  Can u program different midi ccs sets in different programs ?
   (without this u cant remap or control different synths)
   actually this is such a great feature and still so rare,
   in my OB12 i can do it but then it is fixed, disregarding whatever 
program
   u choose. It is mapped now to reflect the Pulse, but if i want to control
   another synth i have to remap them again !

i am sure it sounds GREAT but to add a keyboard to the arsenal it has to be
a GREAT controller too.


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Re: [Evolver] Re: Poly keyboard video at sonicstate

2005-01-27 by Miles Bader

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:09:03 +0100, Andrea Toni <Andrea.Toni@...> wrote:
> -- kbd aftertouch ? or only vel ?  is it a Fatar or .. ?

It's said to be the (exact) same keyboard as the Alesis A6, which is a
Fatar, but supposedly one of the nicer ones.  I think the A6 has
aftertouch, so the keybed itself must support it.  Still needs the
wires to the synth though, I guess D.S. could leave those out :-).

>    and i really dont like the shape of the knobs.

They look like the exact same ones as on every other Evolver model (I
guess he bought enough to last a while :-).  Maybe not completely
ideal, but too bad either.  A lot of people have a large-knob fetish,
but that might make the panel too cramped -- there are a lot of knobs
crammed in there.

[Personally, I'm a fan of having different knobs for different
functions -- filter cutoff biiiig knob, sequencer little knobs, etc.
-- and irregular layout, to help your muscle memory, but those things
add to the cost.]

The thing I'd be most concerned about is the quality of the underlying
encoders; I've heard of people having their Evolver encoders die.

-Miles
-- 
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

Re: [Evolver] Re: Poly keyboard video at sonicstate

2005-01-27 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

I can attest that the keyboard on the poly is the best fatar available (the same on the A6) and full channel aftertouch is implemented. Indeed, it is better aftertouch response than most any other synths, even those that use the same keyboard. The reason? It is that Dave Smith has taken the basically, in his opinion, rather rough aftertouch that the fatars output, and has used his own algorythms to smooth it out and make the pressure curve really really nice. I have used it extensively and while demo-ing at the Namm booth, a few people came up to comment on the fact that it was the best aftertouch response they had felt. Hence the conversation on this topic. This is just another example of how a designer implements things rather than just plugs components together. Makes all the difference.
The knobs are the same, the encoders are not. They are smooth, not detented and do not have the same few issues of the others. Big knobs means less space between them and less room to do easy turns. The issue of what size knobs to use was not conditioned on Dave having extra stock I can assure you. He likes those knobs. And even if they don't appear shiny and all, they really do the job. The rest of the synth is pretty flashy with all the blue lights.
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:09:03 +0100, Andrea Toni <Andrea.Toni@...> wrote:
> -- kbd aftertouch ? or only vel ? is it a Fatar or .. ?

It's said to be the (exact) same keyboard as the Alesis A6, which is a
Fatar, but supposedly one of the nicer ones. I think the A6 has
aftertouch, so the keybed itself must support it. Still needs the
wires to the synth though, I guess D.S. could leave those out :-).

> and i really dont like the shape of the knobs.

They look like the exact same ones as on every other Evolver model (I
guess he bought enough to last a while :-). Maybe not completely
ideal, but too bad either. A lot of people have a large-knob fetish,
but that might make the panel too cramped -- there are a lot of knobs
crammed in there.

[Personally, I'm a fan of having different knobs for different
functions -- filter cutoff biiiig knob, sequencer little knobs, etc.
-- and irregular layout, to help your muscle memory, but those things
add to the cost.]

The thing I'd be most concerned about is the quality of the underlying
encoders; I've heard of people having their Evolver encoders die.

-Miles
--
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

Re: Poly keyboard video at sonicstate

2005-01-28 by Miles Bader

Thanks for the clarifications, Ravi.  The PEK is sounding more
drool-worthy than ever...

-Miles
-- 
I'm beginning to think that life is just one long Yoko Ono album; no rhyme
or reason, just a lot of incoherent shrieks and then it's over.  --Ian Wolff

[Evolver] Re: Poly keyboard video at sonicstate

2005-01-29 by Jason

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma" 
<sharmalaw1@h...> wrote:

> The knobs are the same, the encoders are not. They are smooth, not 
detented and do not have the same few issues of the others. 


YES! Awesome. That was going to be my first question. With all those 
knobs laying out there begging to be tweaked, I was hoping he would 
change them because the detented kind on the first Evolver just 
aren't ideal for heavy tweaking. They need to be smooth.

-JP

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