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PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

2005-03-23 by Simon

Do you think they'll ever release something. 
Their site says "imminente release" since January.
Kind of tired of waiting. Could we at least try the Demo damn it.

If anyone has any info, please share...

Simon

Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

2005-03-23 by psicraft_designs

Hi Simon,

Sorry for the wait! The main reason we haven't released yet is 
because of the sheer number of features that have gone into the 
software. Since the Evolver is by far and away the most complex 
product we are supporting, it has required an awful lot of testing 
to ensure that it works properly in all use-case scenarios.

A demo would be a great thing for us to release, but until the 
actual software is ready to ship, I'm afraid a demo version is 
simply not possible. It's a quality control thing, you understand.

Just to detail one of the reasons we didn't ship after NAMM (in 
January) was that we discovered that our real-time sequencer edit 
mode was bogging down for programs with higher BPMs... This is 
because the editor actually tracks along when you play the 
Evolver's sequencer, syncing up the GUI to Song Position Pointer 
messages (please link to the Sequencer Mode screen capture below for 
an idea of how cool this feature is, it's the third link). The only 
solution was to redesign the real-time keyboard control we were 
using to refresh faster, and this clobbered a whole month of 
development and testing time. I was not going to release the product 
with promises to fix it later - As a musician and software buyer I 
hate that kind of treatment, and I won't allow it to happen with our 
products.

The good news is we're really close. I have posted some screen 
captures you can check out at:

http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f01.jpg

http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f02.jpg

http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f03.jpg

http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f04.jpg

These cover all of the program editor modes. Vyzor Evolver also has 
Global and Waveform editing modes that are just as visual and 
intuitive. These editors will run both on Win XP and Mac OS X, and 
will also act as VST plug-ins besides their default stand-alone 
mode. This version will fully support the desktop Evolver, and could 
be used to program the program banks of a PolyEvolver, although we 
will be producing a separate Vyzor PolyEvolver edition to handle 
this instrument and the PolyKeys in the near future (June, 2005). 
Retail price will be $89 for Vyzor Evolver, and the projected price 
for Vyzor PolyEvolver will be $129. (it will cost $30 to upgrade to 
Vyzor PolyEvolver from Vyzor Evolver, by the way).

Hopefully this gives you some of the information you're after. I 
promise when we release there will be no shortage of graphics 
and product details on our website.

All the best,

   Tony


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Simon " <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
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> 
> Do you think they'll ever release something. 
> Their site says "imminente release" since January.
> Kind of tired of waiting. Could we at least try the Demo damn it.
> 
> If anyone has any info, please share...
> 
> Simon

Re: [Evolver] Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

2005-03-23 by Simon Leclerc

Great !
Thank you for the update Tony.
I'm with you about releasing early
and promises of OS updates and fixes.
I prefer to wait and have a "working" finished tool for Evo.

If it's as good as it looks, i can wait a few more weeks ; )

Thanks again,
Simon
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On 23-Mar-05, at 4:25 PM, psicraft_designs wrote:

>
>
> Hi Simon,
>
> Sorry for the wait! The main reason we haven't released yet is
> because of the sheer number of features that have gone into the
> software. Since the Evolver is by far and away the most complex
> product we are supporting, it has required an awful lot of testing
> to ensure that it works properly in all use-case scenarios.
>
> A demo would be a great thing for us to release, but until the
> actual software is ready to ship, I'm afraid a demo version is
> simply not possible. It's a quality control thing, you understand.
>
> Just to detail one of the reasons we didn't ship after NAMM (in
> January) was that we discovered that our real-time sequencer edit
> mode was bogging down for programs with higher BPMs... This is
> because the editor actually tracks along when you play the
> Evolver's sequencer, syncing up the GUI to Song Position Pointer
> messages (please link to the Sequencer Mode screen capture below for
> an idea of how cool this feature is, it's the third link). The only
> solution was to redesign the real-time keyboard control we were
> using to refresh faster, and this clobbered a whole month of
> development and testing time. I was not going to release the product
> with promises to fix it later - As a musician and software buyer I
> hate that kind of treatment, and I won't allow it to happen with our
> products.
>
> The good news is we're really close. I have posted some screen
> captures you can check out at:
>
> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f01.jpg
>
> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f02.jpg
>
> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f03.jpg
>
> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f04.jpg
>
> These cover all of the program editor modes. Vyzor Evolver also has
> Global and Waveform editing modes that are just as visual and
> intuitive. These editors will run both on Win XP and Mac OS X, and
> will also act as VST plug-ins besides their default stand-alone
> mode. This version will fully support the desktop Evolver, and could
> be used to program the program banks of a PolyEvolver, although we
> will be producing a separate Vyzor PolyEvolver edition to handle
> this instrument and the PolyKeys in the near future (June, 2005).
> Retail price will be $89 for Vyzor Evolver, and the projected price
> for Vyzor PolyEvolver will be $129. (it will cost $30 to upgrade to
> Vyzor PolyEvolver from Vyzor Evolver, by the way).
>
> Hopefully this gives you some of the information you're after. I
> promise when we release there will be no shortage of graphics
> and product details on our website.
>
> All the best,
>
>    Tony
>
>
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Simon " <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
>>
>> Do you think they'll ever release something.
>> Their site says "imminente release" since January.
>> Kind of tired of waiting. Could we at least try the Demo damn it.
>>
>> If anyone has any info, please share...
>>
>> Simon
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Evolver] Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

2005-03-23 by Emory Stagmer

TONY!!  DUDE!!!  I'm slobbering into my laptop...

;P

This looks great guys!

Emory

--- psicraft_designs <tony@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> Sorry for the wait! The main reason we haven't released yet is 


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Re: [Evolver] Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

2005-03-24 by Christian Andersson

From: "psicraft_designs" 
>These editors will run both on Win XP and Mac OS X, >and 
>will also act as VST plug-ins besides their default >stand-alone 
>mode. 

Wow...? Only WinXP?? Not even win2k...?

/Christian
-sad owner of an old computer currently running Win98se.

Re: [Evolver] Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

2005-03-24 by Richard Scott

a serious lookin piece of work. This will really open up that little blue 
box for me, especially the sequencer, which I have never really got to grips 
with in the hardware - I wanna see everything that is happening in one place 
and that seems to be your philosphy... I'll buy it because it will literally 
double the value of the hardware for me. I can program with a laptop and gig 
without it - perfect

Richard

----- Original Message ----- 
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From: "Simon Leclerc" <Simonvolt@...>
To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Evolver] Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver


>
> Great !
> Thank you for the update Tony.
> I'm with you about releasing early
> and promises of OS updates and fixes.
> I prefer to wait and have a "working" finished tool for Evo.
>
> If it's as good as it looks, i can wait a few more weeks ; )
>
> Thanks again,
> Simon
>
>
>
> On 23-Mar-05, at 4:25 PM, psicraft_designs wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Simon,
>>
>> Sorry for the wait! The main reason we haven't released yet is
>> because of the sheer number of features that have gone into the
>> software. Since the Evolver is by far and away the most complex
>> product we are supporting, it has required an awful lot of testing
>> to ensure that it works properly in all use-case scenarios.
>>
>> A demo would be a great thing for us to release, but until the
>> actual software is ready to ship, I'm afraid a demo version is
>> simply not possible. It's a quality control thing, you understand.
>>
>> Just to detail one of the reasons we didn't ship after NAMM (in
>> January) was that we discovered that our real-time sequencer edit
>> mode was bogging down for programs with higher BPMs... This is
>> because the editor actually tracks along when you play the
>> Evolver's sequencer, syncing up the GUI to Song Position Pointer
>> messages (please link to the Sequencer Mode screen capture below for
>> an idea of how cool this feature is, it's the third link). The only
>> solution was to redesign the real-time keyboard control we were
>> using to refresh faster, and this clobbered a whole month of
>> development and testing time. I was not going to release the product
>> with promises to fix it later - As a musician and software buyer I
>> hate that kind of treatment, and I won't allow it to happen with our
>> products.
>>
>> The good news is we're really close. I have posted some screen
>> captures you can check out at:
>>
>> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f01.jpg
>>
>> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f02.jpg
>>
>> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f03.jpg
>>
>> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f04.jpg
>>
>> These cover all of the program editor modes. Vyzor Evolver also has
>> Global and Waveform editing modes that are just as visual and
>> intuitive. These editors will run both on Win XP and Mac OS X, and
>> will also act as VST plug-ins besides their default stand-alone
>> mode. This version will fully support the desktop Evolver, and could
>> be used to program the program banks of a PolyEvolver, although we
>> will be producing a separate Vyzor PolyEvolver edition to handle
>> this instrument and the PolyKeys in the near future (June, 2005).
>> Retail price will be $89 for Vyzor Evolver, and the projected price
>> for Vyzor PolyEvolver will be $129. (it will cost $30 to upgrade to
>> Vyzor PolyEvolver from Vyzor Evolver, by the way).
>>
>> Hopefully this gives you some of the information you're after. I
>> promise when we release there will be no shortage of graphics
>> and product details on our website.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>    Tony
>>
>>
>> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Simon " <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you think they'll ever release something.
>>> Their site says "imminente release" since January.
>>> Kind of tired of waiting. Could we at least try the Demo damn it.
>>>
>>> If anyone has any info, please share...
>>>
>>> Simon
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Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

2005-03-24 by FR

Thanks for the update Tony.... the program looks perfect, and I'm glad you're working 
out all of the bugs before you sell it.

I was wondering in the poly-evolver version of the software is able to control the 
mono evolver? I'm hoping to get a poly soon to add to my mono, and I was hoping I 
would only have to use 1 version of the software to control both synths.

Thanks again,

-FR

[Evolver] Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

2005-03-25 by psicraft_designs

Hi Christian,

All the Vyzor products will be compatible with Win2k as well. As for 
Win 98SE, well... We aren't going to ADVERTISE it as being compliant 
simply to avoid some of the tech-support horror-show users out there 
with ancient MIDI interfaces, failing hardware, and other issues 
but... between you, me and the forum, the Vyzor editors will run 
just fine on Win 98SE. We just aren't rigorously testing on this 
platform, since the heavy graphical content of the editors require a 
P4 or Athlon class processor machine - Most notably when your 
Evolver is punching along at 170 BPM, forcing editor screen 
refreshes at this rate in real-time. Most users with machines fast 
enough to handle this are also running Win 2k or XP.

That said, if you have an slower machine, the editors will still 
work - You'll just need to turn off the real-time sequencer mode. 
I'll build in in a mechanism to handle this situation. Thanks for 
the input!

Cheers,

Tony



--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Christian Andersson" 
<synth_christian@h...> wrote:
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> From: "psicraft_designs" 
> >These editors will run both on Win XP and Mac OS X, >and 
> >will also act as VST plug-ins besides their default >stand-alone 
> >mode. 
> 
> Wow...? Only WinXP?? Not even win2k...?
> 
> /Christian
> -sad owner of an old computer currently running Win98se.

Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

2005-03-25 by psicraft_designs

Hi FR,

No worries there. Vyzor PolyEvolver will have all the capabilities 
of Vyzor Evolver in addition to extra combi and polychain control 
capabilities. As you may already know, Dave Smith is planning 
a 'Unified OS Upgrade' for all of his Evolver products, from the 
desktop mono Evolver to the Poly Rack and the PolyKeys. When this 
happens, we'll have a better idea of how to address the differences 
in these products. For now, I am planning a mode switch in Vyzor 
PolyEvolver that will jump it between editing a Poly and editing the 
Mono desktop version.

All the best,

Tony




--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "FR" <efriendo@h...> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the update Tony.... the program looks perfect, and I'm 
glad you're working 
> out all of the bugs before you sell it.
> 
> I was wondering in the poly-evolver version of the software is 
able to control the 
> mono evolver? I'm hoping to get a poly soon to add to my mono, and 
I was hoping I 
> would only have to use 1 version of the software to control both 
synths.
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> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> -FR

Re: [Evolver] Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

2005-03-28 by arrakian@mac.com

Tony,
Will this thing work with the PolyEvolver? If not, is there one on the 
way?
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On Mar 23, 2005, at 4:25 PM, psicraft_designs wrote:

>
>  Hi Simon,
>
>  Sorry for the wait! The main reason we haven't released yet is
>  because of the sheer number of features that have gone into the
>  software. Since the Evolver is by far and away the most complex
>  product we are supporting, it has required an awful lot of testing
>  to ensure that it works properly in all use-case scenarios.
>
>  A demo would be a great thing for us to release, but until the
>  actual software is ready to ship, I'm afraid a demo version is
>  simply not possible. It's a quality control thing, you understand.
>
>  Just to detail one of the reasons we didn't ship after NAMM (in
>  January) was that we discovered that our real-time sequencer edit
>  mode was bogging down for programs with higher BPMs... This is
>  because the editor actually tracks along when you play the
>  Evolver's sequencer, syncing up the GUI to Song Position Pointer
>  messages (please link to the Sequencer Mode screen capture below for
>  an idea of how cool this feature is, it's the third link). The only
>  solution was to redesign the real-time keyboard control we were
>  using to refresh faster, and this clobbered a whole month of
>  development and testing time. I was not going to release the product
>  with promises to fix it later - As a musician and software buyer I
>  hate that kind of treatment, and I won't allow it to happen with our
>  products.
>
>  The good news is we're really close. I have posted some screen
>  captures you can check out at:
>
> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f01.jpg
>
> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f02.jpg
>
> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f03.jpg
>
> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f04.jpg
>
>  These cover all of the program editor modes. Vyzor Evolver also has
>  Global and Waveform editing modes that are just as visual and
>  intuitive. These editors will run both on Win XP and Mac OS X, and
>  will also act as VST plug-ins besides their default stand-alone
>  mode. This version will fully support the desktop Evolver, and could
>  be used to program the program banks of a PolyEvolver, although we
>  will be producing a separate Vyzor PolyEvolver edition to handle
>  this instrument and the PolyKeys in the near future (June, 2005).
>  Retail price will be $89 for Vyzor Evolver, and the projected price
>  for Vyzor PolyEvolver will be $129. (it will cost $30 to upgrade to
>  Vyzor PolyEvolver from Vyzor Evolver, by the way).
>
>  Hopefully this gives you some of the information you're after. I
>  promise when we release there will be no shortage of graphics
>  and product details on our website.
>
>  All the best,
>
>     Tony
>
>
>  --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Simon " <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Do you think they'll ever release something.
>  > Their site says "imminente release" since January.
>  > Kind of tired of waiting. Could we at least try the Demo damn it.
>  >
>  > If anyone has any info, please share...
>  >
>  > Simon
>
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Re: [Evolver] Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

2005-03-28 by Simon Leclerc

Just read the email all the way to the end...
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On 28-Mar-05, at 1:23 PM, arrakian@... wrote:

> Tony,
> Will this thing work with the PolyEvolver? If not, is there one on the 
> way?
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2005, at 4:25 PM, psicraft_designs wrote:
>
>>
>>  Hi Simon,
>>
>>  Sorry for the wait! The main reason we haven't released yet is
>>  because of the sheer number of features that have gone into the
>>  software. Since the Evolver is by far and away the most complex
>>  product we are supporting, it has required an awful lot of testing
>>  to ensure that it works properly in all use-case scenarios.
>>
>>  A demo would be a great thing for us to release, but until the
>>  actual software is ready to ship, I'm afraid a demo version is
>>  simply not possible. It's a quality control thing, you understand.
>>
>>  Just to detail one of the reasons we didn't ship after NAMM (in
>>  January) was that we discovered that our real-time sequencer edit
>>  mode was bogging down for programs with higher BPMs... This is
>>  because the editor actually tracks along when you play the
>>  Evolver's sequencer, syncing up the GUI to Song Position Pointer
>>  messages (please link to the Sequencer Mode screen capture below for
>>  an idea of how cool this feature is, it's the third link). The only
>>  solution was to redesign the real-time keyboard control we were
>>  using to refresh faster, and this clobbered a whole month of
>>  development and testing time. I was not going to release the product
>>  with promises to fix it later - As a musician and software buyer I
>>  hate that kind of treatment, and I won't allow it to happen with our
>>  products.
>>
>>  The good news is we're really close. I have posted some screen
>>  captures you can check out at:
>>
>> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f01.jpg
>>
>> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f02.jpg
>>
>> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f03.jpg
>>
>> http://www.psicraft.com/Products/Evolver/VyzorEvolverPre_f04.jpg
>>
>>  These cover all of the program editor modes. Vyzor Evolver also has
>>  Global and Waveform editing modes that are just as visual and
>>  intuitive. These editors will run both on Win XP and Mac OS X, and
>>  will also act as VST plug-ins besides their default stand-alone
>>  mode. This version will fully support the desktop Evolver, and could
>>  be used to program the program banks of a PolyEvolver, although we
>>  will be producing a separate Vyzor PolyEvolver edition to handle
>>  this instrument and the PolyKeys in the near future (June, 2005).
>>  Retail price will be $89 for Vyzor Evolver, and the projected price
>>  for Vyzor PolyEvolver will be $129. (it will cost $30 to upgrade to
>>  Vyzor PolyEvolver from Vyzor Evolver, by the way).
>>
>>  Hopefully this gives you some of the information you're after. I
>>  promise when we release there will be no shortage of graphics
>>  and product details on our website.
>>
>>  All the best,
>>
>>     Tony
>>
>>
>>  --- In DSI_Evolver@...m, "Simon " <Simonvolt@v...> wrote:
>>  >
>>  > Do you think they'll ever release something.
>>  > Their site says "imminente release" since January.
>>  > Kind of tired of waiting. Could we at least try the Demo damn it.
>>  >
>>  > If anyone has any info, please share...
>>  >
>>  > Simon
>>
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Re: [Evolver] Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

2005-03-28 by arrakian@mac.com

Thanks.  I just saw "Evolver", along with the screen shots, and got 
ahead of myself.


On Mar 28, 2005, at 1:27 PM, Simon Leclerc wrote:

> Just read the email all the way to the end...

Re: [Evolver] Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver

2005-04-04 by Christian Andersson

Oooh, that sounds great! :)
This is the first time ever I'm really interested in an editor, and I'm also using the notoriously hard programmed Korg WaveStation...

/Christian
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-----Original Message-----
From: "psicraft_designs" <tony@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:22:46 -0000
Subject: [Evolver] Re: PSICRAFT'S VYZOR for Evolver



Hi Christian,

All the Vyzor products will be compatible with Win2k as well. As for 
Win 98SE, well... We aren't going to ADVERTISE it as being compliant 
simply to avoid some of the tech-support horror-show users out there 
with ancient MIDI interfaces, failing hardware, and other issues 
but... between you, me and the forum, the Vyzor editors will run 
just fine on Win 98SE. We just aren't rigorously testing on this 
platform, since the heavy graphical content of the editors require a 
P4 or Athlon class processor machine - Most notably when your 
Evolver is punching along at 170 BPM, forcing editor screen 
refreshes at this rate in real-time. Most users with machines fast 
enough to handle this are also running Win 2k or XP.

That said, if you have an slower machine, the editors will still 
work - You'll just need to turn off the real-time sequencer mode. 
I'll build in in a mechanism to handle this situation. Thanks for 
the input!

Cheers,

Tony



--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Christian Andersson" 
<synth_christian@h...> wrote:
> From: "psicraft_designs" 
> >These editors will run both on Win XP and Mac OS X, >and 
> >will also act as VST plug-ins besides their default >stand-alone 
> >mode. 
> 
> Wow...? Only WinXP?? Not even win2k...?
> 
> /Christian
> -sad owner of an old computer currently running Win98se.






 
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