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Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-16 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

White tshirts are imo not so cool for me, but some I am sure luv em. They can't do other colors because I believe they basically use a cheap iron-on process much like the iron-on paper you can get for your laser printer. Beware the coffee cups as the imprint will fade if you wash them too much. Better to put them on your desk and hold pens or change in.
DS might actually move a few nicer black t's or properly done baseball caps at similar prices. I think you would be surprised how reasonable a lot of 200 or so can be from a local printer, probably around less than half the price that cafe press charges, but then you have to move them . . but if it were the real deal I might buy some tchotchke or something-- how about a dsi dust cover for the keyboard, for example . . .
I believe I definately do not speak for any majority though as I personally avoid wearing any clothes that show a brand, i.e a calvin klein t-shirt, etc with a huge name emblazoned. I probably wouldn't change my habits for even my hero DS.
But no reason to not have it there as as it's no skin off of anyone's nose to have cafe press print up a hat or so.
On the other hand, if I ran a business, I would rather do it nicer than cafe press does. And I also wonder if Cafe press doesn't smell a little cheezy since it is so accessible and automated.
So those are my four or five contradictory views!
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From: Dave Bryce
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Subject: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

Hi, guys -

Someone from another forum turned me on to a web site called CafePress.com that lets
you make up your own swag, so I threw together a few DSI things - shirts, mugs,
hats...you get the idea...

Actually, I did it for myself more than anything else - I wanted the baseball shirt and the
sleeveless tee... ;^)

So, I'd love to get some feedback on this - is it cool? Not so cool? Should I ask Dave to
post a link to it on the DSI web site? Anything I can do to improve it? Or should I just
delete the site?

It's at http://www.cafepress.com/davesmith

Any feedback (positive or negative) is appreciated...

Thanks!

dB
DSI




Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-16 by Jeff Storm

It would probably be cool if you didn't try and profit off the shirts. Last time I checked cafe press the t-shirt was like 15 bucks without the markup.
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From: Dave Bryce
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 1:57 AM
Subject: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

Hi, guys -

Someone from another forum turned me on to a web site called CafePress.com that lets
you make up your own swag, so I threw together a few DSI things - shirts, mugs,
hats...you get the idea...

Actually, I did it for myself more than anything else - I wanted the baseball shirt and the
sleeveless tee... ;^)

So, I'd love to get some feedback on this - is it cool? Not so cool? Should I ask Dave to
post a link to it on the DSI web site? Anything I can do to improve it? Or should I just
delete the site?

It's at http://www.cafepress.com/davesmith

Any feedback (positive or negative) is appreciated...

Thanks!

dB
DSI




Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-16 by Christian Andersson

I agree, it looks slightly "cheap"...
If you are thinking about making "merchandise", I think it's better to hire 
a designer to make something a bit more "artistic" than just simple "logos" 
och instrument pics. (I imagine that there might be people here that would 
be willing to give a hand with that for "free"...?)

/Christian

Ravi wrote:
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>White tshirts are imo not so cool for me, but some I am sure luv em. They 
>can't do other colors because I believe they basically use a cheap iron-on 
>process much like the iron-on paper you can get for your laser printer. 
>Beware the coffee cups as the imprint will fade if you wash them too much. 
>Better to put them on your desk and hold pens or change in.
>
>DS might actually move a few nicer black t's or properly done baseball 
>caps at similar prices. I think you would be surprised how reasonable a 
>lot of 200 or so can be from a local printer, probably around less than 
>half the price that cafe press charges, but then you have to move them . . 
>but if it were the real deal I might buy some tchotchke or something-- how 
>about a dsi dust cover for the keyboard, for example . . .
>
>I believe I definately do not speak for any majority though as I 
>personally avoid wearing any clothes that show a brand, i.e a calvin klein 
>t-shirt, etc with a huge name emblazoned. I probably wouldn't change my 
>habits for even my hero DS.
>
>But no reason to not have it there as as it's no skin off of anyone's nose 
>to have cafe press print up a hat or so.
>
>On the other hand, if I ran a business, I would rather do it nicer than 
>cafe press does. And I also wonder if Cafe press doesn't smell a little 
>cheezy since it is so accessible and automated.
>
>So those are my four or five contradictory views!
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:musicdave9@...>Dave Bryce
>Someone from another forum turned me on to a web site called CafePress.com 
>that lets
>you make up your own swag, so I threw together a few DSI things - shirts, 
>mugs,
>hats...you get the idea...
>
>Actually, I did it for myself more than anything else - I wanted the 
>baseball shirt and the
>sleeveless tee... ;^)
>
>So, I'd love to get some feedback on this - is it cool?  Not so 
>cool?  Should I ask Dave to
>post a link to it on the DSI web site?  Anything I can do to improve 
>it?  Or should I just
>delete the site?
>
>It's at <http://www.cafepress.com/davesmith>http://www.cafepress.com/davesmith
>
>Any feedback (positive or negative) is appreciated...

Re: DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-16 by Miles Bader

Christian Andersson <synth_christian@...> writes:
> If you are thinking about making "merchandise", I think it's better to hire 
> a designer to make something a bit more "artistic" than just simple "logos" 
> och instrument pics. (I imagine that there might be people here that would 
> be willing to give a hand with that for "free"...?)

I'm very wary of this sort of thing though -- I think if the core
idea/image is good, a mediocre designer adding "more design" often just
mucks things up and makes it tacky.  Simplicity is a lot easier to get
right.

I'd pick a striking graphic associated with the Evolver (my fave: the
wacky-font "evolver"), and use _just that_.

-Miles
-- 
80% of success is just showing up.  --Woody Allen

Re: [Evolver] Re: DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-16 by Christian Andersson

Miles wrote:
>Christian Andersson <synth_christian@...> writes:
> > If you are thinking about making "merchandise", I think it's better to 
> hire
> > a designer to make something a bit more "artistic" than just simple 
> "logos"
> > och instrument pics. (I imagine that there might be people here that would
> > be willing to give a hand with that for "free"...?)
>
>I'm very wary of this sort of thing though -- I think if the core
>idea/image is good, a mediocre designer adding "more design" often just
>mucks things up and makes it tacky.  Simplicity is a lot easier to get
>right.
>
>I'd pick a striking graphic associated with the Evolver (my fave: the
>wacky-font "evolver"), and use _just that_.

:) That's just the type of thing I meant that a "designer" would come up 
with (I'd love a well-cut t-shirt with that Evolver-print!).
Or a "better looking" photo of the instruments (like you also suggested)...

I don't think that it has to be more "complicated" just because a designer 
is involved.

/Christian

Re: DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-16 by Miles Bader

"Ravi Ivan Sharma" <sharmalaw1@...> writes:
> White tshirts are imo not so cool for me, but some I am sure luv
> em. They can't do other colors because I believe they basically use a
> cheap iron-on process much like the iron-on paper you can get for your
> laser printer. Beware the coffee cups as the imprint will fade if you
> wash them too much. Better to put them on your desk and hold pens or
> change in.

Hmmm, are there any higher-quality alternatives to cafepress that are
similarly accessible?

[Most custom t-shirts/mugs I've bought have been done on a "take orders
until there are enough to justify a print-run" basis, not the on-demand
cafepress model.]

-Miles
-- 
Americans are broad-minded people.  They'll accept the fact that a person can
be an alcoholic, a dope fiend, a wife beater, and even a newspaperman, but if a
man doesn't drive, there is something wrong with him.  -- Art Buchwald

[Evolver] Re: DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-16 by afro_88

I'd buy a T-shirt if it had the evolver logo on it. Maybe a black
shirt with the purple logo on it would look nice, or even a white
shirt. IMO the DSI logo is a bit dodgy, and a picture of a synth on a
shirt never really did it for me. It's a bit too geeky, I probably
won't buy any of these, but I'd definitely buy a shirt that had the
Evolver logo on it cause it looks kinda cool :)

Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-16 by Stefan Trippler

> The thing is, this is dave's business name and trademarks you are using.
from www.davesmithinstruments.com

St. Helena, CA - Synthesizer manufacturer Dave Smith Instruments is pleased 
to announce that Dave Bryce has joined their team as National Sales Manager. 
Bryce will also serve as a marketing consultant for DSI.

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From: "Julian" <jujulilianan@...>
To: <DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?


>
> On Mon, 16 May 2005 05:57:51 -0000, "Dave Bryce" <musicdave9@...>
> said:
>
>> So, I'd love to get some feedback on this - is it cool?  Not so cool?
>
> It's cool to make shirts and stuff for people to wear, particularly if
> you have dave smith's approval.
>
> Without approval, I'd say it's definately NOT cool for you to be making
> a profit off it.
>
> No approval, and not making a profit? well, It's neither here or there
> from where I'm sitting. DS may disagreee.
>
> The thing is, this is dave's business name and trademarks you are using.
> It's another person's intellectual property. how would you feel if you
> had a band that was popular enough to sell t-shirts on the net, and
> someone else opened a cafepress site using your bandname and song/album
> titles, and images? then to top it off, sent you an email asking to
> advertise their site on your web page?
>
>> Any feedback (positive or negative) is appreciated...
>>
> intellectual property issues aside, I wouldn't wear one.... but that's
> more from a not liking plain old logo-shirts or photo shirts kinda
> thing.
>
> I wear lots of t-shirts but I like very minimal, clean line art graphics
> kinda stuff...  if anything, I'd wear a shirt with the evolver signal
> flow diagram (or part therof, cause the whole thing is a bit too
> complex) and maybe DSI/evolver (front panel logo font!) in really small
> text out of the way of the image, if I absolutely had to...
>
> oh. and I don't wear white t-shirts. ever. they stain too easy, and they
> look like arse anyway. light colours are a possibility, depending on how
> well they're done. heavy colours are best. How about something in a nice
> solid DSI evolver blue?
>
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Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-16 by mr julian

From: "Stefan Trippler" <trippler@...>

> St. Helena, CA - Synthesizer manufacturer Dave Smith Instruments is
pleased
> to announce that Dave Bryce has joined their team as National Sales
Manager.
> Bryce will also serve as a marketing consultant for DSI.
>
heh... oops!!!

well I guess that means he does have DS permission then.
in that case, at least my comments on what I like in a t-shirt still
apply.....




julian

Re: DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-16 by Dave Bryce

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Miles Bader <miles@g...> wrote:

> Hmmm, are there any higher-quality alternatives to cafepress that are
> similarly accessible?
> 
> [Most custom t-shirts/mugs I've bought have been done on a "take orders
> until there are enough to justify a print-run" basis, not the on-demand
> cafepress model.]

See, that's exactly the problem.  Many of the suggestions made here are contingent upon 
doing business with someone who requires that we order big runs of the stuff, and we 
need to have the "on-demand" model.

dB
DSI

Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-16 by Jeff Storm

I like the signal path on a t-shirt idea. That would look cool. Don't put anything else on it but that.
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From: Dave Bryce
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Julian" <jujulilianan@w...> wrote:

> It's cool to make shirts and stuff for people to wear, particularly if
> you have dave smith's approval.
>
> Without approval, I'd say it's definately NOT cool for you to be making
> a profit off it

Actually, I'm just playing with the idea right now; however, the way I set the account up,
the profits would go to Dave, not to me.

dB
DSI


Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-17 by Dave Bryce

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Storm" <jeff@j...> wrote:
> I like the signal path on a t-shirt idea.  That would look cool.  Don't put anything else on 
it but that.

Interesting...cool idea fer sure...

The other one I like brother Stefan came up with first, which was just the Evolver logo.  I 
think I'd also prefer the ubiquitous black shirt (or maybe a blue one) to the white shirts, 
although I totally dig the white baseball jersey with the black sleeves with the DSI logo on 
it - it looks great.

Thanks to everyone for all the feedback.  Man, I love the internet... ;^)

dB
DSI

RE: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-17 by Tom Proctor

I never wear swag but the signal path is a great idea and I'd almost
certainly get a shirt printed with it.  Minimalist and geeky!  However,
the CafePress stuff just looks cheap and you wouldn't be doing us (the
wearers) or Dave any favors that way.  Oh, and see if you can't find
someone who will print on a deep blue (not quite navy) shirt - to match
the synth!
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From: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dave Bryce
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 5:31 PM
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Storm" <jeff@j...> wrote:
> I like the signal path on a t-shirt idea.  That would look cool.
Don't put anything else on 
it but that.

Interesting...cool idea fer sure...

The other one I like brother Stefan came up with first, which was just
the Evolver logo.  I 
think I'd also prefer the ubiquitous black shirt (or maybe a blue one)
to the white shirts, 
although I totally dig the white baseball jersey with the black sleeves
with the DSI logo on 
it - it looks great.

Thanks to everyone for all the feedback.  Man, I love the internet...
;^)

dB
DSI





 
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Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-17 by Richard Scott

this is a silly topic but I have to say the signal path is a nice idea but 
the shirt HAS to be DSI blue - anything else would be sheer madness and not 
tolerable by the international evolver owning community :)

Richard


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Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 5:15 AM
Subject: RE: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?


>I never wear swag but the signal path is a great idea and I'd almost
> certainly get a shirt printed with it.  Minimalist and geeky!  However,
> the CafePress stuff just looks cheap and you wouldn't be doing us (the
> wearers) or Dave any favors that way.  Oh, and see if you can't find
> someone who will print on a deep blue (not quite navy) shirt - to match
> the synth!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Dave Bryce
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 5:31 PM
> To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?
>
> --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Storm" <jeff@j...> wrote:
>> I like the signal path on a t-shirt idea.  That would look cool.
> Don't put anything else on
> it but that.
>
> Interesting...cool idea fer sure...
>
> The other one I like brother Stefan came up with first, which was just
> the Evolver logo.  I
> think I'd also prefer the ubiquitous black shirt (or maybe a blue one)
> to the white shirts,
> although I totally dig the white baseball jersey with the black sleeves
> with the DSI logo on
> it - it looks great.
>
> Thanks to everyone for all the feedback.  Man, I love the internet...
> ;^)
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Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-17 by Robert Krueger

Richard Scott wrote:
> this is a silly topic but I have to say the signal path is a nice idea but 
> the shirt HAS to be DSI blue - anything else would be sheer madness and not 
> tolerable by the international evolver owning community :)
> 
> Richard
> 


That's fine, as long as I get my black :)

I do like the idea of signal path and Evolver name logo

Re: [Evolver] DSI swag - cool or not?

2005-05-17 by Dave Bryce

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Robert Krueger <rkr1@t...> wrote:
> Richard Scott wrote:
 
> I do like the idea of signal path and Evolver name logo

That seems to be a pretty common sentiment, and I think it's a good one as well.

Okay. lemme look into Evolver Blue T shirts with the Evolver logo and the signal flow path.

Thank you all for your input!

dB

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