Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Have you checked the "Master Transpose" setting in the Main row?

It also can depend on the frequency that is set in the Oscillators 
themselves. If for example all the oscs are set to C3 for example then 
everything will be higher by 3 octaves. Remember C0 in the Evolver display 
is equivalant to C3 (pitchwise) (i.e. if you give it midi note number 60 it 
will play C3 on a piano scale and if the oscillator(s) on the Evolver are 
set to C0 then you will hear a pitch of C3. If however the Oscillators are 
set themselves to say C2 then a midi note number of 60 will have the evolver 
emit a noted pitched at C5 on the piano scale, and when you give it a CO (in 
Cubase) you will hear a C2 in actuality. The evolver will not respond to a 
midi note lower than CO (note number 36 I think) so the way to make it sound 
low is to make sure that the oscillators are not set too high. (and take 
into consideration the master transpose maybe).

I hope this is correct. I am not in front of my Evolver. Anybody feel free 
to throw in corrections please.

Ravi






>From: "simonbirds <kpr77@...>" <kpr77@...>
>Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Evolver] Note range problem
>Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 04:06:57 -0000
>
>Hi all,
>
>I have a problem I don't seem to be able to work out the answer to. I
>know its something I'm doing wrong. I will try to explain it but I'm
>not a musician so my wording might be incorrect (ie. I might not make
>sense).
>
>Playing my Evolver via a midi keyboard and programming some notes
>into Cubase, I called up a bass patch on the Evolver and decided to
>program some low bass notes. When I draw a note into the grid editor
>at anynotes lower than C-1, C-1 plays. Adjusting the Key Off/Xpose
>knob does not fix the problem. The only way around this is to adjust
>the master Transpose.  This can be demonstrated on Patch 23 in Bank 2
>(bell sound). The lowest note playable is not very low at all.
>
>I am assuming that I am misunderstanding something here or that the
>Evolver is behaving as designed. Any ideas ?
>
>Any help appreciated.
>
>Cheers
>
>Simon
>


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Hi,

Yes I fiddled around with the master transpose and obviously if you 
set this into the negatives it fixes the issue to some extent. 

I forgot to mention that this problem (?) occurrs with the 
oscillators tuned down as low as possible (C), therefore I guess they 
are set to C1 in actuality. C1 is now the lowest note that can be 
played. Any lower and C1 comes out. Master transpose is set to 0. Key 
off/xpose is set to -36. 

I've just checked some other patches - they seem to be ok. Its 
clearly something I've got wrong in the patch. This is going to keep 
me awake all night now.

Thanks for your help. Sorry to bother.

Simon



I am guessing that its a combination of different factors that I need 
to mess with.

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Sharma" <noision1@h...> 
wrote:
> Have you checked the "Master Transpose" setting in the Main row?
> 
> It also can depend on the frequency that is set in the Oscillators 
> themselves. If for example all the oscs are set to C3 for example 
then 
> everything will be higher by 3 octaves. Remember C0 in the Evolver 
display 
> is equivalant to C3 (pitchwise) (i.e. if you give it midi note 
number 60 it 
> will play C3 on a piano scale and if the oscillator(s) on the 
Evolver are 
> set to C0 then you will hear a pitch of C3. If however the 
Oscillators are 
> set themselves to say C2 then a midi note number of 60 will have 
the evolver 
> emit a noted pitched at C5 on the piano scale, and when you give it 
a CO (in 
> Cubase) you will hear a C2 in actuality. The evolver will not 
respond to a 
> midi note lower than CO (note number 36 I think) so the way to make 
it sound 
> low is to make sure that the oscillators are not set too high. (and 
take 
> into consideration the master transpose maybe).
> 
> I hope this is correct. I am not in front of my Evolver. Anybody 
feel free 
> to throw in corrections please.
> 
> Ravi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "simonbirds <kpr77@i...>" <kpr77@i...>
> >Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Evolver] Note range problem
> >Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 04:06:57 -0000
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I have a problem I don't seem to be able to work out the answer 
to. I
> >know its something I'm doing wrong. I will try to explain it but 
I'm
> >not a musician so my wording might be incorrect (ie. I might not 
make
> >sense).
> >
> >Playing my Evolver via a midi keyboard and programming some notes
> >into Cubase, I called up a bass patch on the Evolver and decided to
> >program some low bass notes. When I draw a note into the grid 
editor
> >at anynotes lower than C-1, C-1 plays. Adjusting the Key Off/Xpose
> >knob does not fix the problem. The only way around this is to 
adjust
> >the master Transpose.  This can be demonstrated on Patch 23 in 
Bank 2

> >(bell sound). The lowest note playable is not very low at all.
> >
> >I am assuming that I am misunderstanding something here or that the
> >Evolver is behaving as designed. Any ideas ?
> >
> >Any help appreciated.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Simon
> >
> 
> 
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I'd also check the "Key Off/Xpose" patch parameter in row 7.  Matter 
of fact, I'd bet that this or the Master Transpose is where you'll 
find the problem.  I don't *think* that you can cause the problem you 
describe (which I've experienced, too) with the Oscillator pitch 
settings.  Actually, your "problem" really IS normal behavior.  When 
you transpose things down too low on the Evolver, the lowest notes on 
the keyboard will be BELOW the lowest MIDI note number.  The result 
is the notes with the same pitch that you heard.


Ski
www.ex5tech.com
EX5Tech Evolver forum:
http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Sharma" <noision1@h...> 
wrote:
> Have you checked the "Master Transpose" setting in the Main row?
> 
> It also can depend on the frequency that is set in the Oscillators 
> themselves. If for example all the oscs are set to C3 for example 
then 
> everything will be higher by 3 octaves. Remember C0 in the Evolver 
display 
> is equivalant to C3 (pitchwise) (i.e. if you give it midi note 
number 60 it 
> will play C3 on a piano scale and if the oscillator(s) on the 
Evolver are 
> set to C0 then you will hear a pitch of C3. If however the 
Oscillators are 
> set themselves to say C2 then a midi note number of 60 will have 
the evolver 
> emit a noted pitched at C5 on the piano scale, and when you give it 
a CO (in 
> Cubase) you will hear a C2 in actuality. The evolver will not 
respond to a 
> midi note lower than CO (note number 36 I think) so the way to make 
it sound 
> low is to make sure that the oscillators are not set too high. (and 
take 
> into consideration the master transpose maybe).
> 
> I hope this is correct. I am not in front of my Evolver. Anybody 
feel free 
> to throw in corrections please.
> 
> Ravi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "simonbirds <kpr77@i...>" <kpr77@i...>
> >Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Evolver] Note range problem
> >Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 04:06:57 -0000
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I have a problem I don't seem to be able to work out the answer 
to. I
> >know its something I'm doing wrong. I will try to explain it but 
I'm
> >not a musician so my wording might be incorrect (ie. I might not 
make
> >sense).
> >
> >Playing my Evolver via a midi keyboard and programming some notes
> >into Cubase, I called up a bass patch on the Evolver and decided to
> >program some low bass notes. When I draw a note into the grid 
editor
> >at anynotes lower than C-1, C-1 plays. Adjusting the Key Off/Xpose
> >knob does not fix the problem. The only way around this is to 
adjust
> >the master Transpose.  This can be demonstrated on Patch 23 in 
Bank 2

> >(bell sound). The lowest note playable is not very low at all.
> >
> >I am assuming that I am misunderstanding something here or that the
> >Evolver is behaving as designed. Any ideas ?
> >
> >Any help appreciated.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Simon
> >
> 
> 
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I've found out what the problem is - simple.

I have been programming a patch that uses the sequencer. Then I have 
been stopping the sequencer, disabling the internal clock and playing 
the patch from the keyboard/from cubase.

Now, because I have sequencer row 1's destination set to oscillator 
pitch - the pitch is transposed by whatever the first step is set to. 
Dohh. Obvious really. 

Sorry for wasting everyones time.

Simon


--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Sharma" <noision1@h...> 
wrote:
> Have you checked the "Master Transpose" setting in the Main row?
> 
> It also can depend on the frequency that is set in the Oscillators 
> themselves. If for example all the oscs are set to C3 for example 
then 
> everything will be higher by 3 octaves. Remember C0 in the Evolver 
display 
> is equivalant to C3 (pitchwise) (i.e. if you give it midi note 
number 60 it 
> will play C3 on a piano scale and if the oscillator(s) on the 
Evolver are 
> set to C0 then you will hear a pitch of C3. If however the 
Oscillators are 
> set themselves to say C2 then a midi note number of 60 will have 
the evolver 
> emit a noted pitched at C5 on the piano scale, and when you give it 
a CO (in 
> Cubase) you will hear a C2 in actuality. The evolver will not 
respond to a 
> midi note lower than CO (note number 36 I think) so the way to make 
it sound 
> low is to make sure that the oscillators are not set too high. (and 
take 
> into consideration the master transpose maybe).
> 
> I hope this is correct. I am not in front of my Evolver. Anybody 
feel free 
> to throw in corrections please.
> 
> Ravi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "simonbirds <kpr77@i...>" <kpr77@i...>
> >Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Evolver] Note range problem
> >Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 04:06:57 -0000
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I have a problem I don't seem to be able to work out the answer 
to. I
> >know its something I'm doing wrong. I will try to explain it but 
I'm
> >not a musician so my wording might be incorrect (ie. I might not 
make
> >sense).
> >
> >Playing my Evolver via a midi keyboard and programming some notes
> >into Cubase, I called up a bass patch on the Evolver and decided to
> >program some low bass notes. When I draw a note into the grid 
editor
> >at anynotes lower than C-1, C-1 plays. Adjusting the Key Off/Xpose
> >knob does not fix the problem. The only way around this is to 
adjust
> >the master Transpose.  This can be demonstrated on Patch 23 in 
Bank 2

> >(bell sound). The lowest note playable is not very low at all.
> >
> >I am assuming that I am misunderstanding something here or that the
> >Evolver is behaving as designed. Any ideas ?
> >
> >Any help appreciated.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Simon
> >
> 
> 
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