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Re: Novation/Evolver SYSEX: was cakewalk INS files?

Re: Novation/Evolver SYSEX: was cakewalk INS files?

2006-06-13 by Andrea TONI

well this is very unfair to the SL !
just cos it doesn't handle the evolvers it doesn't mean is 
a pretty useless controller ! 

it is still a fantastic thing like no other and will probably handle 
95% 
of the machines out there if not more : 
joystick, pad, vel, atouch, the LCDs (!), drum pads, CC, NRPN, RPN , 
SYSX, MMC   

Regards
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>  Posted by: "Andrew Capon" acapon@...   englishbobthedog 
>  Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:41 pm (PST) 
>  Hi,
> 
>  I just got a new remote SL, super duper Automap, most advanced
>  controller ever. Blah, blah, blah.
> 
>  It still works the same with SYSEX as the old models, so basically
>  pretty useless.
> 
>  Andy

Re: [Evolver] Re: Novation/Evolver SYSEX: was cakewalk INS files?

2006-06-13 by James Elliott

But it still sux for Evolverists!

Actually, in all reality what controllers are flexible with their SYSEX messages? None. Not by M-Audio, Fatar, CME, Edirol, and others. Hell most of the other controller manufacturers don't allow you to program SYSEX messages at all. There is no rhyme or reason to SYSEX between manufacturers other than F0 and 7F.... NRPN and RPN at least have LSB and MSB that opperate the same for everyone's implementation.

I was giving Novation a hard time just because I could :) I still have not heard back from them by the way.

-Jim

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From: Andrea TONI
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:04:50 AM
Subject: [Evolver] Re: Novation/Evolver SYSEX: was cakewalk INS files?

well this is very unfair to the SL !
just cos it doesn't handle the evolvers it doesn't mean is
a pretty useless controller !

it is still a fantastic thing like no other and will probably handle
95%
of the machines out there if not more :
joystick, pad, vel, atouch, the LCDs (!), drum pads, CC, NRPN, RPN ,
SYSX, MMC

Regards
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> Posted by: "Andrew Capon" acapon@... englishbobthedog
> Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:41 pm (PST)
> Hi,
>
> I just got a new remote SL, super duper Automap, most advanced
> controller ever. Blah, blah, blah.
>
> It still works the same with SYSEX as the old models, so basically
> pretty useless.
>
> Andy


Re: [Evolver] Re: Novation/Evolver SYSEX: was cakewalk INS files?

2006-06-13 by Robert Krueger

James Elliott wrote:
> But it still sux for Evolverists!
> 
> Actually, in all reality what controllers are flexible with their SYSEX 
> messages? None. Not by M-Audio, Fatar, CME, Edirol, and others. Hell 
> most of the other controller manufacturers don't allow you to program 
> SYSEX messages at all. There is no rhyme or reason to SYSEX between 
> manufacturers other than F0 and 7F.... NRPN and RPN at least have LSB 
> and MSB that opperate the same for everyone's implementation.
> 


Kenton Control Freak can do it all in spades.  And it's able to program 
the Evolver quite well.

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