I think that the ultimate point of a rackmount device is
compactness,, tabletop synths are there for tweaking with knobs, new
rack devices are there for tweaking over your computer or through
your midi knob box on your desk. I haven't tried out the sounddiver
evolver patch but i'm sure most users who want the evolver in a rack
would agree that it's because they like the convenience and space
saving aspects of a rackmount device and like editing via an
omnipotent controller aka computer. I was thinking maybe the
rackmount version could do a-way with the sequencer - thus freeing up
some space - since most pro's would be using a computer to sequence
anyhow. Heck even if you removed all knobs from the front i wouldn't
mind. Maybe the rackmount would cost less than the tabletop this way,
sounds good to me. Same goes for listing so many parameters on the
front panel. I hardly ever look over at any of my racked synths...
maybe only to set their midi channels or turn them on. Instead i
usually build a better interface in logic. Anyhow,, i've enjoyed
seeing peoples mock rack pics. Has Dave caught onto this buzz yet?
later days.
-dan
--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Crackpot <shifty@g...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Here's a stray comment on the front-panel design!
>
> After a few weeks plying wih the evolver, I got to
> know the unshifted parameters quite well. that is,
> I didn't need to refer to panel very much to use them.
> That's mostly because they're so logically laid out! :)
>
> I haven't been able to memorize the shifted paramteres,
> since they're used less often. soooo....
>
> I suppose that means that logically, if you are hurtin'
> for space in a rack unit, you could safely make the
> unshifted parameters smaller in font size than the shifted.
>
>
> -N, who likes the evolver so much, he's rather havea *bigger*
> one with instant access to every parameter, than a compact
> unit! [think midibox 64....heh heh heh]
>
>
> okay, and comment #2: there are some obscure modulation
> sources/destinations that I still ahven't learnt by heart
> yet, so actually, i would like to see the more obscure
> ones (fil and o1l etc are fine, by contrast) on the front
> panel.
>
> -N
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 04:44:24PM -0400, Robert Shanks wrote:
> > Hi Kris -
> >
> > Nice job on the rack mockup. Can I play, too? I like the idea
of a 1U
> > rack Evolver and... I am the person that designed the front
panel graphics
> > for the Evolver for Dave. He was great to work with. It took
about 40
> > designs ( 4 itterations of 10 to 12 designs ) to get to the
current
> > production panel. It was a real challenge to squeeze all that
stuff in -
> > parameters, shift parameters, grouping borders..., but I feel
like it came
> > out good. It feels tweakable/playable/fun! So, getting all
that stuff
> > in a 1U rack panel would be the ultimate insanity, but I like a
good
> > challenge. And, I'd love to have a Evo R. Maybe if we came up
with a good
> > enough design, we could convince Dave to go for it. Hey, if ya
want people
> > to buy five of em, a 1U rack would be the way to go.
> >
> > It would be great to collaborate with some folks on it. I'm
into synth
> > interface design and I like working with people. I guess what I
should
> > really do is SHUTUP and do some designs to toss in the circle.
> >
> > Later - Robert Shanks
> > Evolver #00007 - cool
> >
> > >Yeah and I mean a 1U rack. It'd be fine. Its wider and
narrower, so I'm
> > >sure it could be done. I'll finish the mockup :-)
> > >KRIS
> > >
> > >I said madness in one rack U, not 2. I stick by definine madness
as fitting
> > >the words for 144 parameters into one rack
> > >
> > >
> > >Why madness? Just a different preference Ravi. Personally I
had to hack a
> > >way for Evo to fit into my studio by hanging it over the rack
containing my
> > >MAQ16/3's with two sheetmetal brackets screwed into the screws
on the back
> > >of Evo. Not the best solution, BUT I have ZERO deskspace, so
for me, a rack
> > >version is very appealing. My rendering works fine except that
the matrix
> > >labels would have to be quite small (and side-by-side for the
shift buttons
> > >instead of over/under, but the knobs are farther apart so that
works ok),
> > >but there are other solutions to that (like a pull-out card you
can slide
> > >out of the panel when needed, etc. I think it would work in any
case, esp.
> > >considering 'rack' owners IMO tend to edit via software (maybe
I'm wrong
> > >there? at least in my experience that's somewhat true). But in
any case, it
> > >isn't madness - just a different preference.
> > >KRIS
> > >
> > >
> > >> Heh, heh. That's a nice rendering job but I think that the
> > >> idea is total
> > >> madness, unless you made it a two rack space unit like the
pulse.
> > >>
> > >> I think the most reasonable, doable and inexpensive solution
for you
> > >> rackheads is to make a rack enclosure that puts the unit as
> > >> is, into a rack,
> > >> in much the same way as the rack fit for the Novation Nova.
> > >>
> > >> Ravi
> > >>
> > >> >Here's a mockup.
> > >> >
> > >> > http://www.stucki.com/krhen/downloads/evorack.jpg
> > ><http://www.stucki.com/krhen/downloads/evorack.jpg>
> > >> >
> > >> >Note the problem becomes labelling the matrix. Font would
> > >> be pretty small
> > >> >but it could be done I think (though I didn't want to take
> > >> the time to type
> > >> >in each parameter name now :-) Looks kinda cool. Dave??? :-)
> > >> >KRIS
> > >
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