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Re: [Evolver] glide using the sequencer (and some other seq/mod-matrix issues)

Re: [Evolver] glide using the sequencer (and some other seq/mod-matrix issues)

2003-02-10 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

I believe glide is not implemented in the sequencer. I wish it were. So far glide is not legato based, its either off or not off. I have asked for a legato "fingered" glide feature.
Yes I agree that having all parts of the envelopes as mod destinations would be good (and I believe easily implemented).
by all means consider a feature request.
As far as I know, while Dave is not keen to spit out a new OS every month or so, I do believe he will get around to it and when it happens, it could be pretty comprehensive.
I don't know how long you have been on this list, but awhile back, Dave set forth some criteria he wanted people to follow when proposing new features.
I have created a second database for entry of feature requests that sets forth his criteria. By all means add some entries.
I will get the entries to Dave so he may place them in his own database that he is keeping in regard to feature requests.
But feel free to write to him as well.
Ravi
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Subject: [Evolver] glide using the sequencer (and some other seq/mod-matrix issues)

I tried to get osc glide to working using the Evolver's built-in
sequencer, and couldn't manage to get anything to work.

My thought was that perhaps the Evolver's `glide' function is legato
only, and the sequencers short gate-time always defeats it (or
alternatively I suppose it's possible that the glide is implemented in a
way that gets bypassed by sequencer inputs).

The gate-time thing is a also kind of annoying, at the least, it'd be
nice to have a patch-specific sequencer gate-time parameter (I guess
this has to be a percentage of note length?), or even better gate-time
as a mod-matrix desination.

For instance, if you want a sequence that goes blip-blip-boooouuuuuum
(esp. where the boooouuuuuum lasts across several steps!), how can you
do it? Given no gate-time control, at first I thought, `ah I'll just
use a sequencer channel to modulate envelope release or at least
sustain' -- but in fact only attack-time is a mod-matrix desination!

Other similar ideas proved fruitless, and in the end I found a sort of
ugly and limited solution, by using ENV3 to modulate the VCA, and then
using the sequencer to modulate the amplitude of ENV3. This seems bad
because it seems to waste an envelope, and only allows you to have a
single `alternative decay,' instead of being to have step-specific
decays if you could modulate the normal VCA envelope's release or decay
time directly.

Any thoughts? Has anyone found a better way to do this? Should I send
yet-another feature-request email to Dave Smith? [I read that Dave
Smith is reluctant to do lots of OS upgrades, so maybe it's pointless
anyway, but it's certainly easier to think up new features than
implement them!]

BTW, has anyone come up with other useful mod-matrix destinations that
aren't implemented? Maybe there should be a list of `desired
destinations' ... From above:

; gate-time
env release/decay/sustain

and maybe:

osc glide (1/2/3/4/all)

Thanks,

-Miles
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Re: glide using the sequencer (and some other seq/mod-matrix issues)

2003-02-10 by Miles Bader

"Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@...> writes:
> I don't know how long you have been on this list, but awhile back, Dave
> set forth some criteria he wanted people to follow when proposing new
> features.

Where can I find the criteria-list?

> I have created a second database for entry of feature requests that sets
> forth his criteria. By all means add some entries.

How can I do so?  Does it have a web-site?

Thanks,

-Miles
-- 
`Cars give people wonderful freedom and increase their opportunities.
 But they also destroy the environment, to an extent so drastic that
 they kill all social life' (from _A Pattern Language_)

Re: [Evolver] Re: glide using the sequencer (and some other seq/mod-matrix issues)

2003-02-10 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

Oops, sorry I left out an important link!!
Its feature request table # 2
(if you add more than one, check it to make sure the number of rows increases, I heard but have not confirmed that the databases are limited to a certain number of rows and new entries knock off old ones, THAT IS NOT GOOD, so if you notice it doing that, alert me and I will create a third table, THANKS!)
Ravi
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Subject: [Evolver] Re: glide using the sequencer (and some other seq/mod-matrix issues)

"Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@...> writes:
> I don't know how long you have been on this list, but awhile back, Dave
> set forth some criteria he wanted people to follow when proposing new
> features.

Where can I find the criteria-list?

> I have created a second database for entry of feature requests that sets
> forth his criteria. By all means add some entries.

How can I do so? Does it have a web-site?

Thanks,

-Miles
--
`Cars give people wonderful freedom and increase their opportunities.
But they also destroy the environment, to an extent so drastic that
they kill all social life' (from _A Pattern Language_)

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Re: glide using the sequencer (and some other seq/mod-matrix issues)

2003-02-10 by Ravi Ivan Sharma <noision1@hotmail.com>

Oops, sorry I left out an important link!!
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSI_Evolver/database
 
Its feature request table # 2
 
(if you add more than one, check it to make sure the number of rows 
increases, I heard but have not confirmed that the databases are 
limited to a certain number of rows and new entries knock off old 
ones, THAT IS NOT GOOD, so if you notice it doing that, alert me and 
I will create a third table, THANKS!)
 
Ravi




--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, Miles Bader <miles@g...> wrote:
> "Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@h...> writes:
> > I don't know how long you have been on this list, but awhile 
back, Dave
> > set forth some criteria he wanted people to follow when proposing 
new
> > features.
> 
> Where can I find the criteria-list?
> 
> > I have created a second database for entry of feature requests 
that sets
> > forth his criteria. By all means add some entries.
> 
> How can I do so?  Does it have a web-site?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Miles
> -- 
> `Cars give people wonderful freedom and increase their 
opportunities.
>  But they also destroy the environment, to an extent so drastic that
>  they kill all social life' (from _A Pattern Language_)

Re: [Evolver] Re: glide using the sequencer (and some other seq/mod-matrix issues)

2003-02-10 by Miles Bader

On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 02:08:10PM -0000, Ravi Ivan Sharma <noision1@...> wrote:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSI_Evolver/database

Yeah, later I just went and looked at the yahoo group and found it, and added
my request.

> (if you add more than one, check it to make sure the number of rows
> increases, I heard but have not confirmed that the databases are limited to
> a certain number of rows and new entries knock off old ones, THAT IS NOT
> GOOD, so if you notice it doing that, alert me and I will create a third
> table, THANKS!)

Hmmm, seems to have increased (from 17 to 18).

-Miles
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