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Re: [Evolver] Re: How good is the sequencer?

Re: [Evolver] Re: How good is the sequencer?

2003-02-12 by mr julian

>From: "ski_ex5tech <ex5tech@...>" <ex5tech@...>

>\ufffd Can't say that I've tested it in any "ultra-tight" timing
>situations.
>
yeah... though I've used it in sync a lot, I'm not really that concerned 
about "ultra tight" so I couldn't say for sure. I would assume that it is at 
least OK though because it never sounds out of time to me.

> > Does the Evolver ever hicup while the it's sequencer is running?
>
>\ufffd I'd never say "never", but *I've* never had it hiccup.  I wouldn't
>expect it to, either, as it's quite simple - just a little 4 track 16
>step sequencer.
>
I've never had it do that either.

> > Is it possible to edit sequences while in external sync mode?  If
>so,
> > does the Evolver ever drift out of sync while doing this?
>
>\ufffd I've never tried this, but I THINK this is probably possible,
>because I've frequently edited the sequences while the sequence was
>running and never had a problem.
>
Yes it is possible. No problems noticed here....

>\ufffd You can't "chain sequences together".  Read the manual a bit more
>carefully, and you'll see that it is a simple 4 track, 16 step
>sequencer, as I noted above.  You can only use one sequence at a
>time, but a sequence has four tracks.
>
hmm... wonder how he got this idea.... Wasn't this one of the things someone 
was talking about as a possible future upgrade??

> > Is there actually a swing function, the manual mentions it, does it
> > sound good?
>
>\ufffd Yes, and yes (assuming you like swing).
>
I really like it. though there are basically just two settings, not a 
continuous range, like on an mpc. I think its good enough though.

>\ufffd I don't have any that are "hampering" me, but that's REALLY going
>to be a function of WHAT you need to do bottom line, and how many of
>those needs will have to be accomplished with the Evolver (as opposed
>to being handled by other gear in your rig/studio).
>
excellent answer!!!

I think as long as you are expecting the evolver to be an evolver, then 
there will be no problems... now if you want it to be like a jv50580, then 
you might have a few issues... :-P

The pattern select function could be a little tidier for those people like 
me who would like to take it live (still haven't investigated embedded 
program changes in my main sequencer yet though, so that could be an OK way 
to do it)

anyway - for the guy with the questions: Get it. Hype aside, its a great 
little synth that does so much compared to what it costs, and is totally 
unique! I have a bunch of other synths already, and I didnt feel at all like 
I had wasted any money buying it.



julian


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Re: [Evolver] Re: How good is the sequencer?

2003-02-12 by peter sedin

hi:-P

but the modulation(and notes) gets recorded as midi in
a midi sequenser right?
i just like to keep edit the midi in my main seq.
quantizise etc.
and its not respond to countius controllers right? its
controlled(if liked) with sysex?NRPN?
peter.



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Re: [Evolver] Re: How good is the sequencer?

2003-02-12 by mr julian

>From: peter sedin <midihooker@...>

>but the modulation(and notes) gets recorded as midi in
>a midi sequenser right?

I think not. This is one of the feature requests people have been asking 
for.

>i just like to keep edit the midi in my main seq.
>quantizise etc.

ok well this is a bit of a problem (unless you sequence from your main 
sequencer in the first place, but then you are missing out on the magic of 
the evolver sequencer, IMO)

You can always dump your evolver patch as SysEx into the start of your main 
MIDI sequence, so that you have everything for the track together, and each 
time you press play you can guarantee the evolver will play right alongside 
everything else (master settings assumed OK)

So its not 100% how you want to work, but definately a usable compromise. 
and if you do it a bit you might get to enjoy programming the evolver 
sequences from its own front panel!! :-P

>and its not respond to countius controllers right?

No CCs hardwired to synth parameters, but it does respond to some CC's that 
you can assign to mod destinations...

>its
>controlled(if liked) with sysex?NRPN?

Not by NRPN, only with SysEx. But as far as parameter SysEx messages go, 
they're not too long, and won't clog up your MIDI cable too much...




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Re: [Evolver] Re: How good is the sequencer?

2003-02-13 by peter sedin

> ok well this is a bit of a problem (unless you
> sequence from your main 
> sequencer in the first place, but then you are
> missing out on the magic of 
> the evolver sequencer, IMO)
  
----oh no i love to work with analogue stepseqs!!
i use a doepfer mac16/3 for "playing" all my gear..
dont even own a keyboard.


> You can always dump your evolver patch as SysEx into
> the start of your main 
> MIDI sequence, so that you have everything for the
> track together, and each 
> time you press play you can guarantee the evolver
> will play right alongside 
> everything else (master settings assumed OK)
> 

---- but that wont make the "keynotes" editble..
its the ppq res. from logic audio is so high that
32th`s and triplets that are recorded on drumachines
hardware seqs.are tiny of beat(ungroove)when
synced(midi beatclock)
do you know what ppqresolution EVOLVER has?
i would like a softseq. that i could set the ppq
resolution my self.
its seems lot of fun thoe:=P and i cant wait to get
it!!

> So its not 100% how you want to work, but definately
> a usable compromise. 
> and if you do it a bit you might get to enjoy
> programming the evolver 
> sequences from its own front panel!! :-P
 
 and thats the  fun part!! a little ..kind of
ugly(novation right?) stepseqs.modular:=))

peter.

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Re: How good is the sequencer?

2003-02-13 by bassmeter <ultrubass@aol.com>

While a current sequence is playing, is it possible to select a new 
program and have it's sequence play seamlessly, without stopping the 
sequencer, right after the current sequence finishes it's last step?  
If not, what happens, does it just stop automatically?  From what 
Julian said, it seams like you can't program chained sequences 
together, but I'm wondering if anyone's tried it this way.

If anyone else out there has any comments about how well this device 
follows midi beat clock, I'd love to hear it.  

Thanks Julian, for the helpful information..

Julian said:  hmm... wonder how he got this idea.... Wasn't this one 
of the things someone 
was talking about as a possible future upgrade??

Nope, didn't get this from anyone else, I just found out about this 
cool little box last night.
Peter







--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "mr julian" <jujulilianan@h...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> >From: "ski_ex5tech <ex5tech@e...>" <ex5tech@e...>
> 
> >• Can't say that I've tested it in any "ultra-tight" timing
> >situations.
> >
> yeah... though I've used it in sync a lot, I'm not really that 
concerned 
> about "ultra tight" so I couldn't say for sure. I would assume that 
it is at 
> least OK though because it never sounds out of time to me.
> 
> > > Does the Evolver ever hicup while the it's sequencer is running?
> >
> >• I'd never say "never", but *I've* never had it hiccup.  I 
wouldn't
> >expect it to, either, as it's quite simple - just a little 4 track 
16
> >step sequencer.
> >
> I've never had it do that either.
> 
> > > Is it possible to edit sequences while in external sync mode?  
If
> >so,
> > > does the Evolver ever drift out of sync while doing this?
> >
> >• I've never tried this, but I THINK this is probably possible,
> >because I've frequently edited the sequences while the sequence was
> >running and never had a problem.
> >
> Yes it is possible. No problems noticed here....
> 
> >• You can't "chain sequences together".  Read the manual a bit more
> >carefully, and you'll see that it is a simple 4 track, 16 step
> >sequencer, as I noted above.  You can only use one sequence at a
> >time, but a sequence has four tracks.
> >
> hmm... wonder how he got this idea.... Wasn't this one of the things 
someone 
> was talking about as a possible future upgrade??
> 
> > > Is there actually a swing function, the manual mentions it, does 
it
> > > sound good?
> >
> >• Yes, and yes (assuming you like swing).
> >
> I really like it. though there are basically just two settings, not 
a 
> continuous range, like on an mpc. I think its good enough though.
> 
> >• I don't have any that are "hampering" me, but that's REALLY going
> >to be a function of WHAT you need to do bottom line, and how many 
of
> >those needs will have to be accomplished with the Evolver (as 
opposed
> >to being handled by other gear in your rig/studio).
> >
> excellent answer!!!
> 
> I think as long as you are expecting the evolver to be an evolver, 
then 
> there will be no problems... now if you want it to be like a 
jv50580, then 
> you might have a few issues... :-P
> 
> The pattern select function could be a little tidier for those 
people like 
> me who would like to take it live (still haven't investigated 
embedded 
> program changes in my main sequencer yet though, so that could be an 
OK way 
> to do it)
> 
> anyway - for the guy with the questions: Get it. Hype aside, its a 
great 
> little synth that does so much compared to what it costs, and is 
totally 
> unique! I have a bunch of other synths already, and I didnt feel at 
all like 
> I had wasted any money buying it.
> 
> 
> 
> julian
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Evolver] Re: How good is the sequencer?

2003-02-13 by Paul Nagle

On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:38:40 -0800 (PST), peter sedin
<midihooker@...> wrote:

>do you know what ppqresolution EVOLVER has?

It's a step sequencer therefore this is kinda meaningless if you think
about it. It'll be the resolution of MIDI clock which, I think, is
24PPQN. Or was it 96? Can't remember... 8)

Paul
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