Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

OGD

You are a WEALTH of knowledge. Thanks for the quick reply... The very 
well narrated description below, has made me understand how the 
piezo's work...

"In Knowledge lies strength"



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> The short answer is (well maybe not so short):
>  
> For the rim switches on the TP65S to function, the main pad piezo 
must
> trigger near simultaneously with the striking of the rim switch. 
For example
> if you were to take the pad apart, you would see the rim switches 
are
> attached to the bottom plastic frame and the piezo is attached to 
the
> underside of the top rubber pad surface. If you move the rubber pad 
surface
> away from the plastic housing so that when you hit the rim switch 
only,
> without causing the piezo also to trigger, you will get absolutely 
no sound
> at all.
>  
> Think of it like this, when the TP65S is hit anywhere the piezo is 
going to
> vibrate. The module detects that the piezo is vibrating, but before 
telling
> the tone generator to send the "snare" sound to the output jacks, 
it checks
> to see if either of the rim switches has also been closed. If 
neither of the
> rim switches have been hit, then the sound that comes out the 
module is the
> main pad voice. If the Piezo triggers and the module detects that 
the rim1
> switch has also been activated, then it tells the tone generator to 
send out
> a "rim shot" sound. If the piezo triggers and the module detects 
that the
> rim2 switch has also been activated, then it tells the tone 
generator to
> send out a "cross-stick" sound. 
>  
> But if only the rim1 switch is closed without the peizo triggering, 
no sound
> will be sent out. The same is true for the rim2 switch.
>  
> Thus, without the magic box (see photo gallery) that is still in 
the R&D
> shop, you really can't split the rim zones out and assign them to 
other
> pads.
>  
> What you can do is to parallel two pads together. So that if you 
want a
> snare (TP65S) in the center of your kit and a second snare (to the 
left of
> the hihat) you can just use a stereo Y-splitter cable and connect 
both pads
> into input no. 2. But.....they will both have the same sound, for 
pad, rim1
> and rim2. This would also work with two PCY65S, one on the right 
side of the
> kit and one on the left side of the kit for crashes, but they again 
would
> share the same sound.
>  
> This is a topic that comes up about once every six months, that 
almost
> everyone thinks about when they first get their kit and wants to 
expand it,
> without adding a second module.
>  
> OGD
> 
>    _____  
> 
> From: vap19592000 [mailto:vap19592000@y...] 
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:14 PM
> To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DTXpress] Splitting 3 zone pad (TP65S) signals to 
different pads
> 
> 
> 
> Greetings to all..
> 
> Hope the DTXpress is keeping you all quite busy and the 
exploration, 
> is still continuing...as usual.
> 
> Just came up with a radical idea...hoping to get some intelligent 
> feedback..
> 
> Subject: TP65S snare pad.
> 
> Pad Type: 3 ZONE, with 1 x pad sound and 2 x rim sound. 
> 
> Connection: Stereo cable from module to pad.
> 
> Question: Is it possible to "SPLIT" the zones, and assign them to 
> SEPARATE pads(2 x PAD SOUNDS...original pad and another pad for 
dual 
> snare; RIM SOUND #1 to another pad; RIM SOUND #2 to another pad. So 
I 
> am using a TOTAL of 4 pads including the TP65S.
> 
> Example: PAD SOUND leave as is on the TP65S, but send this signal 
to 
> another pad for a DUAL snare. (One for the left hand and one for 
the 
> right. . RIM SOUND # 1 to a SEPARATE PAD and RIM SOUND # 2 to a 
> SEPARATE PAD.
> 
> Assumption: I figured that if I SPLIT the SIGNAL from the module as 
> such, I MAY be successful.....please acknowledge..
> 
> 1. USE A "Y" STEREO CABLE. 1 X OUTPUT STEREO SPLIT TO 2 X STEREO 
> OUTPUTS.
> 2. ON STEREO OUTPUT # A: ADD ANOTHER "Y" CABLE WITH ONE OUTPUT 
STEREO 
> TO TWO MONO OUTPUTS. CONNECT MONO #1 TO RIM SOUND #1(PAD 1) AND 
MONO 
> #2 TO RIM SOUND #2(PAD #2).
> 
> 3. STEREO OUTPUT # B: ADD ANOTHER "Y" CABLE WITH ONE OUTPUT STEREO 
TO 
> TWO MONO OUTPUTS. CONNECT MONO # 1 TO THE ORIGINAL TP65S FOR PAD 
> SOUND (SNARE #1)...
> AND CONNECT MONO # 2 TO PAD # 4 FOR PAD SOUND (SNARE # 2). 
> 
> When ALL connections verified, assign the respective PAD SOUNDS to 
> the respective pads in the "drum kit voice edit" mode and "trigger 
> setup edit" mode.
> 
> Phew!!!! does this make sense, and IS IT POSSIBLE???. Your turn 
> Guys??? 
> 
> Best Wishes and HAPPY DRUMMING!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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