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Re: Hart Dynamics pads

2004-12-06 by vl2000_us

donn... man its been a long and ongoing process.  i imagine it will 
also be somewhat different for different setups.  for example i use a 
gibralter rack (rock solid) and have a rock solid drum riser, so i'm 
getting away with little if any rejection settings from crosstalk.

now, if you set up on a loose stage or riser, you may have to tighten 
down the rejection settings.

i am basically working with self rejection set to the min which is 
5ms on pretty much everything.  wish i could get it to zero, in fact.

i have found that i get best results with gains set nearly maxed on 
the harts.  that may change with more tweaking, but i have for most 
of my kit programs, my yamaha toms set at 32, my hart toms at 57, my 
hart snare at 57 and my yam snare at either 45 or 63 depending on 
what i'm trying to do with it.

i use the hart snare as my main.  i use the yam snare as either a 
specialty snare (ex: big fat 80s rock sound) at which case i run it 
at 45, because the yamahas seem 'hotter' than the hart.  i have to 
run the hart at 57 to be approx same vol as the yam at 45.

on the other hand sometimes i use the yam snare as a special fx 
trigger (ex: hand clap, bells, etc) so i run the gain to 63.  when i 
do that, i'll also set the volume where i want it for the voice, and 
i'll usually set the velocity at min-126 max -127, that way i always 
get full force FX even if i mis-strike the pad

i had a full band rehearsal today after really torquing the heads 
down tite on the harts.  the reason for this, as i posted earlier, is 
i had one tom and the snare, periodically drop a hit.  really throws 
me off when that happens and it was buggin the shit out of me.

i tried every rejection combination, against itself, the rack, other 
drums, etc... i'm finally convinced (well almost convinced) that 
these heads like to be a quite a bit tighter than i've ever had my 
acoustics, almost to the point where i feel like they're too tight.  
but... no dropped hits today, and i was hammering unusually hard 
today because bass player was cranked.

i'm not sure if the looser head was causing the stick to over drive 
the trigger, or, if the looser head was creating too much extra 
vibration that was within the 5ms minimum self rejection setting and 
hence cancelling the next hit.  (thats why i mentioned earlier about 
wishing i could take self reject to zero just to experiment)

what else... i've managed to get the kit where i'm running all the 
special rejections at 0 from any other drum, as well.

I built my own snake for cable management so i can very quickly wire 
the whole set properly.  (i dont use any of the channels as labeled :-
)

let me know i can help with anything else.  right now the only thing 
i want to figure out is if i can put wipe or spray something on that 
beautiful chrome finish on the harts.  they are going to occasionally 
spend a few days in the cold band truck and i dont want the 
condensation to start pitting the surface.  thinking some kind of wax 
or something.

overall i'm thrilled with my combo hart/yam kit.



good luck-
vlus
http://www.MonstersOfRock.info







--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Don <contract731@c...> wrote:
>   vlus:
> 
> Any quick advice on what tweaking of the module setting gave the 
> optimum results?
> 
> donn

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