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Re: Round versus wedge cymbals

2004-12-15 by oldguydrummer

Kieth,
The rubber is a little thicker on the PCY130/130S/150S as oppose to 
the PCY65s/80s. Because the newer cymbals are more balanced 
(counterweighted) they are more giving that the PCY65/S wedges. The 
rubber at the rims of the PCY130/150 is nearly double what is on the 
PCY65 and is definitely softer to hit. If you are using a PCY65 for a 
hihat pad like I was on my first kit and you want something more 
forgiving pad, the RHH130 is not it. The RHH130 does not give in at 
all and is pretty stiff and is more like hitting a heavy set of 15" 
Newbeat hats that are tightly closed. It would have been nice if 
Yamaha had let the upper rubber pad of the RHH130 float a little, 
even if it did not physically move up and down like the new Roland 
hats. When I gets some free time this spring, I made work on a 
modification of it.



OGD

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <keith@k...> wrote:
> > 
> > Ed,
> > 
> > Having never played real drums I guess "realistic" is not really 
> what
> > I am after!  I have been playing the TP65 as a hi-hat for a while
> > which seems fine, but as I now progress to using the ride a lot 
more
> > it is a bit of a shock.  I guess whacking a piece of tin would be 
as
> > well :-)
> 
> Realistic might not be what you're after now, but if you ever spent 
> some time with a quality acoustic cymbal, realism might become your 
> holy grail. The feel of the stick on a metal cymbal and the 
rebound, 
> when played without undue force and at least a semblance of good 
> technique, has a gentility and grace about it that makes the rubber 
> pads seem positively ungainly when used as a substitute. Rubber 
just 
> doesn't have the touch, regardless of how sensitive the electronics 
> are. If hitting something to make percussive sounds is the only 
goal, 
> your preference for soft rubber is as good as anyone's. If trying 
to 
> duplicate an acoustic drumming experience, with similar response, 
> approximating metal cymbals is an important part of the deal. I 
find 
> the higher-end Yamaha and Roland rubber cymbals fine to play, but I 
> much prefer either Hart's metal ride, Smartrigger's full range of 
> metal cymbals--which I haven't tried yet but will in time--and Visu-
> lite's acrylics. But maybe you have to be an old geezer who played 
> acoustic drums for 35 years to have this opinion.  
> 
> Ed

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