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Re: Music Minus Drums

2005-01-14 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" <njcarroll56@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "edrummin" <jjff@v...> wrote:
> > 
> > Greetings edrum brothers,
> > Does anyone know where to get classic songs from ELP,Zep,etc. 
> > without drum tracks? I have heard the "Lay it Down" cds but would 
> > like some old classics. Also,can the drums on existing albums, I 
> > mean cds,(guess I'm showing my age) be taken out by a mix or 
> > something? Thank for any info.
> 
> I believe a CD burning program like Nero can be used to remove 
> selected instruments from tracks. I haven't done so, however.

Hi Nick and edrummin,

Unless I've missed something (always a possibility), extracting 
drums, or any other instrument, from a fully mastered stereo 
recording is not an easy proposition. If you have the original 
multitrack tapes, then you can cut anything that occupies its own 
track, but once you get to the final stage, and everything is mixed 
into two channels, you're in a pickle. In the higher reaches of 
digital manipulation, engineers can tinker with data and make 
remarkable changes to an original recording, eliminating noise and 
correcting the ravages of time, but deleting one element without 
affecting everything else would seem prohibitive. In the early days 
of stereo, a lot of popular music was recorded with brickwall pans 
that often left the drums on their own channel. Early Beatle albums 
were not immune. In that case, it's pretty easy to substitute your 
own drumming for Ringo's. 

I don't know what the Music Minus One CDs have to offer these days. I 
used them to accompany jazz standards on my trombone back in the late 
fifties and early sixties. Doesn't the Berkley School of Music have a 
bunch of CDs with bass lines for drummers to follow?  In terms of the 
rock classics, the best that you probably can do is to mine one of 
those MIDI sites that has a selection of popular songs and cut the 
drum channel. I don't know much about them, but that's what MIDI can 
offer. If anyone has other information or suggestions, please post it.

Ed

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